I lost a 13 year old account for reporting hate speech. Turns out if just 2 moderators disagree with you, ever, that’s grounds for an unappealable permaban.
Did you ever happen to check your overall Reddit reputation using 3rd party sites?
I strongly suspect that Reddit runs such an internal service, which brings up some implications. One idea being that borderline users are probably seen as ‘no big loss,’ while valued contributors have more rope to play with. That’s all just speculation of course, but there are plenty of people who’ve commented along the lines of ‘I barely said anything objectionable and yet they permabanned me just like that!’
Not trying to imply that was your deal, but it does make me wonder. Sort of like the old trope of “everyone in prison being innocent.” I’ve never seen someone in these communities actually say ‘yeah, they banned me, and I probably deserved it.’
I doubt I was seen as “high value”, or much of anything really, as I mostly lurked.
No, my crime was simple: I pissed off some power mods by reporting posts that broke the stated rules, but not the implicit ones.
It’s well known that various groups are abusing Reddit’s reporting systems in order to control opinion and get rid of people who might disagree with them.
Right, and that ties in to what I was speculating about above.
One idea being that if you’re going to ‘throw your weight around,’ it might be risky to do so as just a lurking-type user. Whereas if you’re someone with a high internal score, it would likely be harder to get permabanned, which of course is something that traditionally needs some level of admin intervention to make happen. Mods can at best only ban from communities they’re a part of.
I lost a 13 year old account for reporting hate speech. Turns out if just 2 moderators disagree with you, ever, that’s grounds for an unappealable permaban.
Did you ever happen to check your overall Reddit reputation using 3rd party sites?
I strongly suspect that Reddit runs such an internal service, which brings up some implications. One idea being that borderline users are probably seen as ‘no big loss,’ while valued contributors have more rope to play with. That’s all just speculation of course, but there are plenty of people who’ve commented along the lines of ‘I barely said anything objectionable and yet they permabanned me just like that!’
Not trying to imply that was your deal, but it does make me wonder. Sort of like the old trope of “everyone in prison being innocent.” I’ve never seen someone in these communities actually say ‘yeah, they banned me, and I probably deserved it.’
I deserved my ban tbh. Just not all the other bans.
I doubt I was seen as “high value”, or much of anything really, as I mostly lurked.
No, my crime was simple: I pissed off some power mods by reporting posts that broke the stated rules, but not the implicit ones.
It’s well known that various groups are abusing Reddit’s reporting systems in order to control opinion and get rid of people who might disagree with them.
Right, and that ties in to what I was speculating about above.
One idea being that if you’re going to ‘throw your weight around,’ it might be risky to do so as just a lurking-type user. Whereas if you’re someone with a high internal score, it would likely be harder to get permabanned, which of course is something that traditionally needs some level of admin intervention to make happen. Mods can at best only ban from communities they’re a part of.