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    4 days ago

    I don’t know if you’ve seen prices recently but it’s seems pretty on par for a zen 4 CPU, RDNA 3 GPU and 16gb DDR5. SSD prices seem high but apparently the supply’s about to get heavily throttled so it may be accounting for that.

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      4 days ago

      “Accounting for” ssd prices going up before they actually do seems kinda like price gouging. Weird that you would ask if I’ve seen ssd prices when my complaint is that buying a 2tb model is a lot more expensive than just buying a 2tb ssd and upgrading the 512gb model.

      Also, watch Gamer Nexus’ video. A comparable pc performs better than this. The steam machine cpu even loses against a ryzen 2600.

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        That’s not price gouging, I didn’t ask if you’ve seen SSD prices, and no benchmark has it losing against a zen+ CPU that runs a GHz slower. You’re not even being contrarian now, just melodramatic.

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          That’s not price gouging

          They, a supplier that buys in bulk is charging a higher premium for storage than you’d pay if you bough the 512gb model and a 2tb ssd on your own. So yes, it kinda is price gouging.

          I didn’t ask if you’ve seen SSD prices

          You literally said “I don’t know if you’ve seen prices recently” and my complaint was about the device price, while also specifically mentioning the price premium for the 2TB model. So yeah, you kinda did ask.

          no benchmark has it losing against a zen+ CPU that runs a GHz slower

          My bad, it didn’t lose to a 2600, it matched it in decompression tests. Source, if you want to confirm it. The most it can do is get close to the 3600, which was released in 2019. If that’s not disappointing, I don’t know what is.

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            4 days ago

            They’re not buying at the prices your local hardware store bought them at though, they’re buying at the future price of hardware when it actually gets built for them. It’s not price gouging.

            I talked about SSD prices in an entirely separate sentence, it doesn’t make any contextual sense for you to lump it into the previous statement.

            The literal next sentence he says is “but blender put it near the 5600x”. You’re comparing it’s worst performing tasks to general performance.

            You are being melodramatic.

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              They’re not buying at the prices your local hardware store bought them at though, they’re buying at the future price of hardware when it actually gets built for them. It’s not price gouging.

              That’s really not how pricing works, but ok.

              The literal next sentence he says is “but blender put it near the 5600x”. You’re comparing it’s worst performing tasks to general performance.

              It’s supposedly a pc, not just a console. There’s nothing unfair about the comparison

              You are being melodramatic.

              You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

              If you like to fanboy all over Valve so much then go ahead and buy it. Have fun. We’ve literally alredy seen how this plays out. Did you already forget about the og steam machine?

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                3 days ago

                I fear your understanding of context is matched by your understanding of economics if you think your first two claims are true. It’s a PC at a PC price, and your unfamiliarity with the market doesn’t change that.

                Melodramatic means exactly what I think it means - I’m saying you’re being overemotional to make a drama out of a non-issue, as backed up by your projective accusations - I don’t want one, I’m not it’s target audience. You, on the other hand, are here raging that it… Costs a normal price for a computer of its specs. It’s obvious this isn’t a real issue, you’re just reactively hating on Valve.

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                  3 days ago

                  Your first paragraph is like you talking to a mirror xD and the second one is flat out wrong. Most reviewers agree with me. This thing is way too outdated and expensive to make sense. It’s doa. I don’t care if you believe me or not, it will die anyway.