Finally in the truly permabanned club.

They have some type of ban detection. I use a VPN and bounce between logging into my different accounts.

Not for ban evasion but for doxxing, I don’t post personal info on my politics account, my hobby accounts are pretty open, etc.

I pissed off somebody and the sub reddit banned me. I go thru and filter that sub out of my accounts. Didnt think about other people using my wifi.

Buddy comes over and posts a single post in that sub. His account and ALL of my accounts are now permabanned.

The reason I know is they AI mod replied then deleted a post about ban evasion to him, so he knew the comment he made on what sub and we pieced it together.

The rest of the msgs I got from reddit made no sense as I didn’t post in the sub and until he mentioned the reply it all came together.

I would like to know how they are tracking me as I use a VPN. Kinda makes it useless if it doesn’t work as advertised. I put an appeal in, we know how thats going to go…

Updates to follow, not that I’m likely to stay on there. Maybe for my hobby subs.

  • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.orgEnglish
    6·
    16 hours ago

    Device fingerprint, browser ID, text and behavioral analysis and some more unknown things.

    Basically you have to buy a new phone, make completely brand new google/apple users on that phone, never use your home WiFi for Reddit ever again, that IP is tainted permanently. Then make it appear that the phone has actual history instead of a just a blank slate. Then join Reddit, but don’t do anything atypical of a new user, otherwise you get shadowbanned aka not joining too many subs in rapid succession, not having full blown discussions. Basically laying low for a few weeks to months.

    • TIEPilot@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      10 hours ago

      Wait so if I VM’ed it would likely trip off the behavioral analysis as I would blank out my history in every instance? Also probably the device finger print?

      The world is getting Draconian.

      • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.orgEnglish
        2·
        10 hours ago

        Not in every instance, but a completely blank slate aka no browser ID and a new device fingerprint would be suspicious on it’s own. While it wouldn’t link it back to your old users, at least initially as the machine algorithm doesn’t have enough data yet. Doing anything that doesn’t really fit into a profile of a new user, will get you shadowbanned, but the appealing process for that doesn’t work. Artificial ageing could work as the detection algorithms ramp down after some time.

        Yeah they have really ramped up detection and banning with new machine algorithms, starting somewhere late last year or beginning of this year.

        Though there aren’t any official documents on how exactly it’s done, for obvious reasons thats kept as a secret. It’s mostly collated by user reports who have trial and error it to try to bypass detection and lots of googling and moderators reports.

        So if you’re really bored you can try to refine it even more. Make a VM, create a fake history on it, make a reddit user, leave it marinate for few months, slowly start to interact and see what happens then. Just report back.

        • TIEPilot@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          9 hours ago

          Not in every instance, but a completely blank slate aka no browser ID and a new device fingerprint would be suspicious on it’s own.

          This makes sense and I like to write and have been on reddit well before the Digg exodus I can seeing that throwing up red flags

          While it wouldn’t link it back to your old users, at least initially as the machine algorithm doesn’t have enough data yet. Doing anything that doesn’t really fit into a profile of a new user, will get you shadowbanned, but the appealing process for that doesn’t work. Artificial ageing could work as the detection algorithms ramp down after some time.

          Again this makes sense, also old references like Aaron\the ratio (and I think it was in play as I made a recent comment on him) would label me an old fag.

          Yeah they have really ramped up detection and banning with new machine algorithms, starting somewhere late last year or beginning of this year.

          They started nuking all my accounts w/ no email, so I went Protos. They are working w/ reddit as they nuked one of my new emails w/ they need my state ID or its not usable. This is after I made a reddit account around about 20m before.

          Though there aren’t any official documents on how exactly it’s done, for obvious reasons thats kept as a secret. It’s mostly collated by user reports who have trial and error it to try to bypass detection and lots of googling and moderators reports.

          Well if I can figure out a way to sink their ship I would keep those cards close to the chest.

          So if you’re really bored you can try to refine it even more. Make a VM, create a fake history on it, make a reddit user, leave it marinate for few months, slowly start to interact and see what happens then. Just report back.

          I’ll try the VM next, I’ll piggy back on another wifi network to see if I can get it to fly. Or I’ll take the VMs on the road, old school WARDRIVING.

            • TIEPilot@lemmy.worldOP
              2·
              8 hours ago

              It will take a minute, I need to get some fresh PC from my old job. Then I need to build a proper test environment I don’t self sabotage by accident.

              Also the digital finger print stuff, idk even know where to start.

              • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.orgEnglish
                1·
                6 hours ago

                Take your time, no rush.

                VM or a different machine should already eliminate device fingerprint and as long as you don’t log in with any of your existing accounts to the new machines browser. Then there’s no history or cookies to carry over either. Obviously avoiding local network as well or at least masking it. At that point from Reddit perspective, you are just like a brand new person joining.