Tim Sweeney claims it’s a “Scarlet Letter” which makes players “try to kill the game”

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney has criticised rival Valve for forcing studios to disclose when they use AI in game development.

Epic recently showed how it was integrating AI into Unreal Engine 6.

Time Sweeney said:

“If you want to launch a game, and get it as widely publicized as possible, you’ve got to put it on Steam so people can wish list it, and if you want to play it on Steam, then you have to get this Scarlet Letter of AI attached to your product, and now there is a hater community trying to kill the game.

“I think it’s really irresponsible of Valve. They shouldn’t do it, because it makes it much, much, much harder for a game developer to have a chance of success. You have to choose from either not using tools that can make you way more productive, and probably failing due to competition that does.”

Which is totally ignoring the factor that the user should know about the purchase it makes and be able to decide for themselves. Transparency for the player is not a bad thing.

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    Out of that future? Yes. Abso-fucking-lutely. You are describing literal hell. You are trying to upend and destroy every single thing that humanity has ever worked for or attained by STAINING AND CORRUPTING it with the hallucinations of rocks.

    Get the actual fuck out of here.

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      Such hyperbole and vitriol. You’re obviously not a rational, thinking individual.

      Save that level of hate for the fascists taking over the world, the industry/government leaders exacerbating climate change or something truly horrible. Not technological advancement.

      Get the actual fuck out of here with your exaggeration and misplaced aggression.

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          I have. I oppose data centers. Not AI, which I use locally with solar power. The technology shouldn’t be castigated because of the actions of big players using it. That’s like being opposed to plastic surgery because of Mar-a-lago faces, when some use it to recover from debilitating injuries. Being anti-AI casts too large a net and stigmatizes those using it responsibility.

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            I don’t think that it is a responsible or logical thing to exponentially increase our energy needs while we are desperately (should be anyways) attempting to transition to renewable energy. AI consumes a ludicrous amount of energy for something that could almost always be done with a human.

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              That list is long. You could say the exact same thing about video games themselves. We should all be playing board games, so we don’t use electricity. We shouldn’t be driving vehicles, even electric ones, because we could walk somewhere instead. We shouldn’t be using computers, because we can calculate with pen and paper. We shouldn’t be using Christmas lights, and should use candles instead. Et cetera.

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                Ok so are you claiming that the hallucinations of AI are as vital and useful to the world as the computers they run on?

                We absolutely do waste an ungodly amount of energy and time on nonsense like Christmas lights and personal vehicles when public transit would be better. That does not mean that we should waste yet more energy on making child porn and goonslop.

                There are very few actual use cases, all of which are just general pattern recognition.

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                  You seem to be under the misconception that they only make hallucinations. In over a year of using AI daily, I’ve experienced two hallucinations. Once when it recommended a part that was incompatible with my electronics, and once it suggested using a Nuget package that didn’t exist. The other 99% of the time it’s output was incredibly valuable.

                  I’ve never created porn or “goonslop” and I don’t think game developers are using it for that either when they use it to make games. It sounds to me like you’re blinded by hatred and are being irrational to fit into the anti-AI mob that is so popular and trendy right now. Free yourself from the hive mind, we don’t need more mindless luddites. Be a distinct, thinking individual.

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                    Must. Hate. AI. Must. Hate. AI.

                    I have no thoughts of my own. Only groupthink.

                    Mother fucker I hate AI for perfectly valid reasons. I want to get information from the source. Not regurgitated and processed by corporate ghouls into whatever slurry they can concoct.

                    Do you seriously believe they are just innocent search engines? They manipulate the results you get to skew your worldview into a more controllable nature. I want absolutely nothing the corporations have to offer in any capacity. I want them to touch nothing that I use. I want peace and quiet from the incessant bombardment of advertising which the AI will begin forcing into every interaction because it make number go up.

                    I am not a part of whatever hivemind popularity contest you want me to be so you can dismiss my opinions. I genuinely just loathe anything that has at any point passed through corporate hands. I refuse to use it, if AT ALL POSSIBLE. The idea of needing to use AI or any other corporate shitware for anything makes me physically ill.