I’ve been a paid Proton Unlimited customer for several years now and aside from a few small complaints, I’m generally very happy with the services I’m paying for. I agree that there is too much focus on “sidequests” like Wallet and Meet before core products are fully rebuilt and meeting expectations. I agree that Linux versions and some feature implementations are taking a long time. However, I have a fully functioning suite of Mail, Drive, VPN, Calendar and more that meet 95% of my needs. To be fair, I’m sure the zero-access/zero-knowledge encryption aspect makes development much more difficult.

If you’re worried about political affiliations/interests, I’ll give you that Andy Yen has made a few worrisome comments. I’m not sure what to do there. Assuming there aren’t repeat occurrences, I’m satisfied with their statement about the French political figure sponsorship.

If it’s the FBI cases and subpoenas, it comes down to understanding the difference between privacy and anonymity, and knowing what strategy is required to achieve actual anonymity.

So why (especially on Lemmy) is there so much Proton hate/relunctancy? Eager to hear some non-biased, fact-driven thoughts here!

  • FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    22 hours ago

    you won’t get it to work with Thunderbird or K9mail out-of-the-box.

    I use Proton with Thunderbird as my mail client and it works fine. For years now. That was a basic requirement for me to sign up for any mail service inc Proton. If it won’t work with a local mail client, I won’t use it.

    • vas@lemmy.ml
      1·
      17 hours ago

      I couldn’t get K9mail to work with proton. Do you run that “bridge” server to have it work on the computer?

      • FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        16 hours ago

        Yeah. They have to have something like that, to support E2EE. They can’t depend just on HTTPS for that, b/c their server would have to see the unencrypted contents to send it over HTTPS. I believe the bridge is open sourced, but that’s just from memory. I’d hve to go search to be certain.

        Also if I remember (Ha! Don’t take my word for this! My memory is shit!) they support E2EE with other mail services that use PGP to encrypt on the backend. Ofc, if you send to gmail or something then google sees everything. So this helps, but onyl under the right conditions.