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    22 hours ago

    That reply just shows me that he fundamentally misunderstands the issue. By giving money to Mullvad I would directly support the pos party that this guy donates to. Do they not understand where the money in their bank account is coming from?

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      21 hours ago

      I read it as he implicitly does understand that and is the reason he suggests getting a refund if that is your priority. He is just urging people to see nuance that there is collateral damage for the rest of the people that make mullvad too. A loose analogy would be, I disagree with Trump and I wish my country would divest from the USA, which is all well and good, but the workers don’t have great protections and would likely be the first to hurt. Sure a majority of them voted for him I could rationalize, but that’s not the same rationalisation companies use to layoff before they actually start to hurt.

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        20 hours ago

        Decent people are boycotting the USA though, because that is the only chance we have to get the people of the USA to snap out of it and care enough to change their society. The same applies here, where Stromberg says it is not that big a deal, it’s just fascism.

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          15 hours ago

          and we appreciate y’all doing it, at least here in California.

          the line for the secret delicious berries was shorter this year than usual (they are in watsonville and delicious. go get some at gizdich ranch and give Nita my love) but that’s probably because the growing season is all el nino wonky.

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          20 hours ago

          Sure, that’s fine, I tend to agree, I was drawing out the picture of the collateral, so it’s considered as much or as little as it is worth, but at least considered.

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            18 hours ago

            I would hope that the mullvad staff are completely opposed to fascism, it would be naive to believe that is true of all of them though. I have no interest in them losing their jobs (except for the fascists of course), or in the company failing. But it would be dishonest to continue supporting mullvad now, while long term not supporting companies such as unilever, monsanto, nestle, amazon etc etc. Mullvad are no doubt in a bit of a crisis right now, but I do not believe they have responded well to this… they posted on nazi twitter, but not on mastodon, or bluesky for instance. I’m currently looking into alternative vpn options, and don’t have a single one that ticks the boxes. This sucks, my government (australia) has serious overreach/privacy issues, and is very clearly in the pocket of the usa, and israel.

            Many options, so much dodgy. https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-company-relationships

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              6 hours ago

              In the last couple of months I just bought 12 months through a voucher that is no more so doubt I’d get a refund, so I’ve got some time to decide. I swear everything I look into deep enough has something going wrong with it, but I guess all we can do it take the battles we can handle.

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                5 hours ago

                I added 4 months about a week ago, applied for a refund today, and it was approved today. I believe the only chance we have of mullvad removing the ahole is a mass of refunds, customers need to show they care. My timing was of course very lucky in this respect.

                My first vpn provider was called vpnarea, had them for a few years, and ended up paying for a 2, or 3 year discounted block, before they vanished and took my money with them.

                I appreciate that mullvad doesn’t do any of that ‘60% off’ bs, and I can/could just pay for 3 months, or 5 months, or whatever

                it’s a trash industry, decent resources are very difficult to find, everyone is recommending nord etc with affiliate links, heaps of vpn company sites lack pertinent details, have servers in countries they shouldn’t, or don’t have servers where they should, are owned, or based in dodgy countries etc etc. Many of them appear to suck for linux completely, or unless you are using vanilla ubuntu, or fedora etc

                somewhat handy(ish) https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-company-relationships

                less handy, but still https://www.vpnlocations.info/