Sony killed active development on Destiny 2 but said the servers would stay up. Destiny 1 remains playable a decade later. But you have to wonder for how long? Would they be subject to any consequences if they took them down? I have to believe the TOS protects them up and down.
Since all the regulatory agencies that keep corporations in check are captured, we’re going to see more and more abuses of consumers, especially through EULAs and TOS.
In fact, TOS and EULA abuse is so useful (thanks to the DMCA) we’re now seeing proprietary software added into devices just to force obsolescence.
See also UNEQUAL TREATIES
See also RIGHT TO REPAIRCONTENT LICENSE AND RESTRICTIONS
10.1. All intellectual property rights subsisting in PSN Content, including all software, data, services, and other content subsisting in or used in connection with PSN, the Online ID and access to content and hardware used in connection with PSN belong to SIE, its affiliates, and its licensors. Use of the terms “own,” “ownership”, “purchase,” “sale,” “sold,” “sell,” “rent” or “buy” in this Agreement or in connection with PSN Content does not mean or imply any transfer of ownership of any content, data or software or any intellectual property rights from SIE, its affiliates or its licensors to any user or third party.Source: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/terms-of-use-march-2025
It’s worse, when any company can define what these terms mean.
Ownership does not mean ownership.
Capitalism where we change the definition of a word to fit our profit motive
It’s more “regulatory capture” than it is capitalism. In any system where there are supposed to be people who protect the rights of the people, if those organizations are prevented from doing their jobs, you get stuff like this.
The USSR, for example, was famous for its “new word formulation” after the revolution, which George Orwell referenced as “newspeak” in 1984. I mean, the official Soviet newspaper was named “Pravda” meaning “Truth” when it was famous for publishing propaganda that was clearly untrue.
At least in theory theres a California law that stops them. It’s not enforced but it exists.
i mean, do you live in california? if no, that’s why it’s not being enforced for you.
I don’t but people have tested it
This isn’t what that means.
The paragraph refers to the “intellectual property rights”, meaning you don’t own the God of War franchise, nor can you reprint discs, or anything else with the IP as a result of your buying (renting? licensing?) the game.
It’s “OR any intellectual property rights”. Which means it refers to more than just IP to me.
They need to start calling it “long term game rental”
Correct but gross. Leasing.
Yeah, it should be listed as purchasing anymore, since you dont own it
Or – hear me out – the distributors should be criminally prosecuted for fraud and theft for having represented it as a sale and then reneging on it/stealing it back from the buyers.
It should be a sale and should remain a sale. But the terms need to be enforced.
Yes that is my favorite way of handling it
My more favorite way would be making regulation around garbage drm like Denuvo. Scumbag Studios shouldn’t get to install trash spyware just to punish legit buyers.
they saw what Blockbuster’s was doing with their physical games and then said “hold my beer”
I want game rentals back… It was great, basically a euro per day. So many games I tried just because our was cheap enough to try risk free.
Blockbuster was honest about what they were doing and provided a valuable service.
Long live the devs. Fuck publishers.
Pay for the games that have good consumer practices.
For the predatory games, either find some other way to get them…or don’t play/pay at all.
For the predatory games, either find some other way to get them…or don’t play/pay at all.
It’s good advice, but past experience strongly suggests not enough people are going to follow it to make a difference. I think the only way game pubishers and other media companies reform their practices is if there are enforced government regulations requiring them to do so.
Both, really. In fact I’d say all three:
- Don’t give money to publishers who do shit like this.
- Be loud about that fact and shame people who do spend their money like that.
- Advocate for proper government regulation.
We should pressure reviewers too. Even if it is an otherwise “good” game, if the company has a history of this bullshit then it should get a shit score. And they should mention that at the beginning and end of their reviews. At minimum.
If there’s not a majority willing to step up and do whats right, then we get what we deserve.
Im tired of the idea of legislating good behaviour
If people en masse want to try to blame other people for their choices, that’s on them. Bringing the legal system into it just tells everyone “hey, dont bother being responsible for your actions” without addressing the issue: people dont give a shit about making good choices
The simple solution is for people to choose wisely with their dollars. If they choose to support shitty producers thats the problem. No need to make being assholes illegal
And this should include any terms or conditions! No more “Please accept our updated privacy agreement”. Fuck you, I bought the thing, the thing should remain as I bought it. No more planned obsolescence, selling of data and all of the other bullshit. Companies have been getting away with this shit for far too long.
How would you pirate playstation games?
rom hacks up to ps2 haven’t cared much past that
anything modern generally has a pc release
oh dude.
PS1/X, you’d get a mod chip, install it in your console, then you could go on any website, download an ISO and it didn’t have to be printed on the black discs anymore. the one my friend had bypassed copy protection, maybe more but that’s all i used it for
theoretically i’ve pirated/backed up a few of my games (depends whether you ask sony or anyone else) so i can play them on emulation on PC or my phone. I just started peeking into PS2 emulation when its cable stopped working, but we’ve got that fixed now so meh.
Old enough version of system firmware, one of several apps or games depending on which firmware version, exploit from github or something, more or less the same game sources as always they come and go but don’t change much.
With my hands
Nah, game publishers are happily swimming in money
They might call it sideowning or something like that
Then I should be able to sideload it onto another device!
After all, it’s no longer limited by any sort of physical, proprietary format, right?
RIGHT?!
Not a physical limitations, but there is the real problem of operating system compatibility, they definitely should be able to make games more compatible though
well… I have been a Mac guy for 25 years… it’s never stopped me from running all of the Fallout and Elder Scroll games, for example, which, AFAIK, have never been ported to macOS… yet…
Look, one way or another, they’re going to want to sell their games, and they’re going to have to make them work on other platforms— or others will. They were almost convinced, then they packed off the idea when they saw a little competition from the Steam Machine and when the Xbox was doing something mysterious an weird that turned out to be nothing.
what Sony an MS need to do now is realize that the age of the console (as they know it) is over. That they realize (as we all always knew) they they were always selling hyper tweaked, specialized pcs, and that’s what we always wanted, but we can all build ourselves now-- but, ok, WE CAN’T! because the market has been crushed due to these AI fuckbags (which they have helped fuck us both).
So, now, everyone is screwed, and what customers want is what the Steam Machine offers: an affordable, open platform (and device) that provides an open (and portable!) platform which doesn’t really demand much (too much) brand loyalty, and no subscription overhead. Plus it’s a mid-range linux home PC to start, plus whatever else you wish to do with it.
And I don’t care what the nerds at Valve say, it’s clearly a 3rd or 4th generation tribute NeXTCube, and probably the first one that was any sort of success, especially in an engineering sense, as all previous attempts, despite their beauty, were engineering catastrophes. In fact, after reading their specs and several overview videos, it seems that they’ve really cracked the formula and made the serious thermal issues of the compact cube shape work in ways that have eluded engineers in the past, so good for them.
No no you see, that is not how that works. It’s called capitalism. Where you transfer your capital to corporations, you dummy
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Big companies have gone wild with greed and want everything they sell to be a subscription, that along the politicians that do their bidding because they feel no pressure to do otherwise.
