“those dirty savages were killing each other before they were invaded and killed by noble white people Europeans who brought civilization and peace? I’m just asking questions here I’m definitely not making excuses or trying to diminish what happened”
Humans are pretty horrifically violent across time. For example before the Spanish arrived there were the Aztecs who were wiping out entire tribes, enslaving them, and torturing them quite gruesomely. I’m not saying the Spanish are good guys or that the Aztecs are bad guys. I’m specifically saying humans are violent and metal as fuck essentially regardless of circumstance.
People been enslaving, genociding, torturing, raping one another long before anyone even lived in Europe.
Yes they did, so far. It’s kinda a function of the fact that there were just more people. It’s hard to genocide 2 million people when the global human population is only 10,000 for instance. Now back to the actual point I was making, these behaviors aren’t new, not even new to homo sapiens much less whites or westerners.
There was 100 million Native Americans before the Europeans showed up bucko, lol. Learn some history before you spout off. It was the largest genocide in human history.
I picked 2 million arbitrarily as an example. The general point was that its hard to kill a lot of people when there isn’t any. That is humans and likely our ancestors have been doing these things for a long time but at a smaller scale because there were just fewer people. Humans and early hominids are violent AF. Just check out our closest living relatives, chimps. War, murder, rape, torture, completely eradicating another tribe is nothing new. What is new very recently in the hominid story is the absolutely massive increase in population.
Right, and our species knows it’s wrong, and yet continue to murder, rape, torture, and genocide. That’s what sets us apart from other animals, we know what we’re doing causes anguish, yet we do it anyway.
Now we’re getting to my point this entire time. These behaviors aren’t a western or even a homo sapien thing. Of course humanity has the ability for peace but over all known history that really hasn’t been the case. People want what they want and they unfortunately are willing to use force to get it. In the case of genocide it can be two groups who mutually believe they are not safe so long as the other exists so the fight never ends until one is wiped out fully. As they say, until your enemy becomes your friend the war is never over. Although honestly at the end of the day it’s about power and genetic propagation. Arguably everything is about genetic propagation for organisms.
“those dirty savages were killing each other before they were invaded and killed by noble
white peopleEuropeans who brought civilization and peace? I’m just asking questions here I’m definitely not making excuses or trying to diminish what happened”Humans are pretty horrifically violent across time. For example before the Spanish arrived there were the Aztecs who were wiping out entire tribes, enslaving them, and torturing them quite gruesomely. I’m not saying the Spanish are good guys or that the Aztecs are bad guys. I’m specifically saying humans are violent and metal as fuck essentially regardless of circumstance.
People been enslaving, genociding, torturing, raping one another long before anyone even lived in Europe.
And then the Europeans did it even harder.
Yes they did, so far. It’s kinda a function of the fact that there were just more people. It’s hard to genocide 2 million people when the global human population is only 10,000 for instance. Now back to the actual point I was making, these behaviors aren’t new, not even new to homo sapiens much less whites or westerners.
There was 100 million Native Americans before the Europeans showed up bucko, lol. Learn some history before you spout off. It was the largest genocide in human history.
I picked 2 million arbitrarily as an example. The general point was that its hard to kill a lot of people when there isn’t any. That is humans and likely our ancestors have been doing these things for a long time but at a smaller scale because there were just fewer people. Humans and early hominids are violent AF. Just check out our closest living relatives, chimps. War, murder, rape, torture, completely eradicating another tribe is nothing new. What is new very recently in the hominid story is the absolutely massive increase in population.
Right, and our species knows it’s wrong, and yet continue to murder, rape, torture, and genocide. That’s what sets us apart from other animals, we know what we’re doing causes anguish, yet we do it anyway.
Now we’re getting to my point this entire time. These behaviors aren’t a western or even a homo sapien thing. Of course humanity has the ability for peace but over all known history that really hasn’t been the case. People want what they want and they unfortunately are willing to use force to get it. In the case of genocide it can be two groups who mutually believe they are not safe so long as the other exists so the fight never ends until one is wiped out fully. As they say, until your enemy becomes your friend the war is never over. Although honestly at the end of the day it’s about power and genetic propagation. Arguably everything is about genetic propagation for organisms.
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