• marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
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          The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it’s “symbiotic” in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It’s dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn’t exist on land.

          And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants.

          And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren’t people so amino acids aren’t life, but that seems like a cop out at that point.

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            They do not “eat fungi corpses” you absolute buffoon. Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition.

            And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life.

            I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved.

            I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren’t people so amino acids aren’t life, but that seems like a cop out at that point.

            It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding.

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              Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition.

              …So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word ‘decomposition’ means?

              I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved.

              It’s apparently not / that / hard.

              It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding.

              It’s crazy we’ve gone from your position of plants don’t destroy other life to maybe life doesn’t exist so quickly.

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                Plants don’t decompose fungi, they absorb already decomposed fungi. And I wouldn’t say that the absorption of rotten fungi is “eating”. Plants still need other life to survive, but there is much more of a symbiotic relationship, not this Nietzschean idea that you’re proposing.

                We certainly know that the building blocks of life are abundant like amino acids, but life itself isn’t. Protocell formation is still hard, that’s why we still have a hard time replicating it. So the amino acid consumed most likely wouldn’t have become life. This was my point.

                I said “this is just you conceding” in response to this, nothing to do with “life doesn’t exist so quickly”:

                I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren’t people so amino acids aren’t life