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    Tell that to the vast swathes of the globe, including China, due to face lethal wet bulb temperatures within the next 10-20 years. Which, along with mass death, means massive breadbasket failures on multiple fronts. Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.

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      Yeah, and someone was just arguing with me in a different thread saying vertical warehouse farming is stupid and we should just grow our crops in the ground outside 🙄

      Like, I’m trying to be helpful here, but sure let’s continue to make no systemic changes to the way things are done and just be frustrated when our problems only continue to get worse…

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      lethal wet bulb temperatures

      Europe wants to rebalance trade with Beijing, but can’t quit Chinese air conditioners

      One country is producing all of the world’s air conditioners. I wonder if they’re in a better position to endure wet-bulb temperatures than their peers.

      Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.

      They absolutely can and will. This is a country that can build the infrastructure to keep people from dying of overheating. What’s more, this is the country that can export that infrastructure globally, such that its allies will see improved survivability. And that will have cascading knock-on effects.

      The ability to survive climate change is the ability to operate as a global center of gravity.

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        Are we talking about the same country here? Where in “southern” provinces like Sichuan there is no heating provided in buildings? And people rely on electric heaters and blankets to stay warm?

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        I think you missed the ‘massive breadbasket failures’ part of my comment. You can’t air condition a field of rice. Well, you could, but good luck trying that on the scale needed to feed everyone once crops begin to fail globally.

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        You do realize how many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right? Usually in some of the places that will be most impacted by climate change, too. Air conditioners won’t be of much help to them.

        Also, do you know how much coal China burns each year?

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          many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right?

          It’s crazy that you treat this as an insurmountable obstacle. Much less that there’s no political cache in surmounting it.

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            Okay so just send in the Chinese with their concrete and bulldoze these people’s homes to build them nice new climate-controlled living spaces while also indebting them in higher amounts than they’re likely to make in their lifetimes.

            Cause that’s different from colonialism how?

            “Don’t worry, primitives, we’re here to surmount your obstacles for you. Because it’s totally our place to decide that.”