Yes there were red flags, but the mission was to unseat Collins, so we were all willing to look the other way on some of them and were hoping that we were going to vote for the man he is now, to make this happen. Everyone who was supporting him did say that if something came out that was truly disqualifying, we’d drop him like a hot rock, and this clearly the case.
We are never gonna unseat Collins. This bitch has more lives than a cat! FML (flips a table)
Genuine question: Did anyone do any vetting on this guy before he ran? I know his whole shtick is not being a cookie cutter pre-picked politician but Jesus Christ he’s got a pile of issues before rape accusations. For example, say you find out about the Nazi tattoo while vetting him. Wouldn’t that prompt you to do some more digging?
I’m not gonna shame anyone who voted for him but he’s kinda fucked everyone over by hiding this stuff till now. Democrats must take the senate or we’re gonna get an even harder right SCOTUS.
Well, if people had taken the fifty other red flags seriously, there wouldn’t now be a scramble to find a replacement. Had a Nazi tattoo, covered it up with a nazi adjacent tattoo, guard at abu ghraib, blackwater mercenary, ‘joined the army because I wanted to have an adventure and kill some people,’ rape apologist, ableist, had a kik account, accusations of impropriety, accusations (and admittance) of locking a woman in a closet during an argument, accusations of sexual assault.
A single one of these is enough to bail on this rich failson, and yet we have all of these and more (with I’m sure more to come out) and people are still out here acting like he’s somehow the victim in all of this.
we were willing to believe the narrative that such people could be redeemed. He seemed genuinely to find distaste in his past actions and was openly repentant. That’s what makes this mildly infuriating because this is the bridge too far. He’s spot on on the issues, seemed humble and well spoken. To put a pin in the r4pe allegations for a second, the larger issue is that he CAN get blackout drunk and then do things he can’t even remember. Drunk posting on reddit before the modpocalypse is one thing, but if those things include SA? Yeah, we have to make the hard pass now. There’s a line, man.
Personally, I never got the vibe that he was repentant. Every time something came up, he would do his best to deny it and then downplay it, followed by his swearing that this was the last thing. It absolutely sounded like a cheater getting caught and then trying to keep the relationship going. He never actually put in the work for any of it.
I think a lot of people wanted to believe in him, so much so that they put their blinders on to what were very clear issues. And then sunk cost fallacy set in and people started to really dig in about protecting ‘their guy.’ I said it months ago, but I really do see a similarity to him with Trump, in that people hear what they want to hear but also that as more things come out about him, it actually becomes harder to ditch than easier. People stuck with him after the first thing, then the second thing, and so on until there is just a litany of reasons to bail but it’s ever harder to finally get that breaking point.
Even now, look how many people are still trying to frame this as a hit job by some woman instead of a credible story of sexual assault. Far too many people out there have not responded to this latest accusation as you have. Ken Klippenstein is out there trolling people over this, which side note, that dude is absolutely going to be writing articles for the right in five years.
I usually will take the women’s side in cases like this. But come on the timing of this just seems like a hit job and it could be either Republicans or Democrats doing it. I’m so sick of the Democrats caving for every little scandal. While Republicans knowingly put pedophiles in office they don’t give a f***
I do feel you but there’s fighting dirty like them and then there is abandoning our standards. If we abandon our principles than we are no better than they are.
I’m so sick of the Democrats caving for every little scandal.
Yeah the solution is to elect more rapists. /s
While Republicans knowingly put pedophiles in office they don’t give a f***
You want the left to not give a fuck in the same way?
It’s neat to condemn people as criminals on a simple timely accusation.
No one is condemning Platner as a criminal. That’s for a court to decide. Everyone is just saying he shouldn’t be a Senator.
Getting cancelled is not the same as getting thrown in jail.
Go read the fallout for al franken after schumer and gilli went after him… I suspect this man is going to have it infinitely rougher as a result of this allegation in many ways prison would be a kindness.
It’s neat to tell rape victims they’re liars just because you want your guy to win.
This is EXACTLY what someone who WANTS Susan Collins OUT would Say! I’ll just FLIP a TABLE and Vote for Her I GUESS!
I don’t want him to drop out. He needs to keep running. Not even from Maine and I still want to vote for him
Unfortunately this seems 100% credible. Her therapist and another ex boyfriend are both corroborating the allegations. The woman even said she shares his politics. I’m not mad at her bravely coming out with this but the timing is rather suspicious. She should have spoken up a year ago, or at the very least ahead of the primary. There’s a guy we can slide over to, he’s known and vetted in the state (Troy Jackson, who’s a logger by trade), but he has about as much charisma as a grilled cheese sandwich. Also he’s almost retirement age.
or at the very least ahead of the primary.
eh, im more concerned by the association with schumer/gilli than I am with the timing. I suspect she was hoping he wouldnt win making it a non-issue to her.
the timing and the association with political operatives known for false sexual assault allegations just makes it all super suspect. which isnt her fault.
Troy also seems like he’s running -because- he can’t retire; how riveting.
It’s a genuinely disappointing situation that really takes the hope out of the air. I just hope there’s still enough momentum to save it all, it really seems like this election could really matter and then just… This.
