I can’t believe a former US marine who joined specifically for Iraq would be violent towards women.

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      It’s prolific enough that’s it’s specifically mentioned in that “are we the baddies” video. They’re wearing it too.

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      Yes, we all see so many of those on a day-to-day basis, and photos from the time are such high-def it’s astounding that anyone could miss it!

      (/s, just in case)

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        You asked for “a single screenshot” and claimed people couldn’t produce one, I showed you a whole sketch specifically about the symbol, and now the goalposts have moved to “high definition photos that I personally see on a daily basis.”

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          Okay, so what’s that sketch from? I’ve heard the quote before but I couldn’t tell you what it’s from. I’ve never seen the video, and I’m sure I’m not the only one

          Also, what year did it come out, and was it before Platner got the tattoo? Cause if that’s the only media representation you’re gonna rely on, obscure as it is, it doesn’t help your argument that he knew what it was if it wasn’t even out yet

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            I feel like you didn’t read this:

            You asked for “a single screenshot” and claimed people couldn’t produce one, I showed you a whole sketch specifically about the symbol, and now the goalposts have moved to “high definition photos that I personally see on a daily basis.”

            it doesn’t help your argument that he knew what it was if it wasn’t even out yet

            Where exactly did I make that argument?

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              Okay, I guess you’re just gonna ignore the entire context of this conversation and call it “moving the goalposts.” Whatever.

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                I chimed in to correct a false statement that you said and now you’re trying at assign a bunch of bullshit I never said to me. Whatever.

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                  A false statement? That I had never seen or heard of the symbol before reading about it in the context of Platner, and that I find it very believable that he didn’t know what it was when he got it?

                  When precisely did you correct that? I’m not sure how you even would.

                  You showed an example of a media clip that I’ve never seen, that likely hadn’t even come out yet when Platner got his tattoo. How does that change anything about what I said?

                  Clearly you’re ignoring the context of the conversation in favor of a cheap gotcha, and it’s not working.

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                    You even said that you’d heard the “are we the baddies” quote before, which is frequently accompanied by the screenshot. You also said:

                    I told them to show me a single screenshot of this symbol appearing in any media that depicts nazis or WWII and they couldn’t provide one, they just kept deflecting and calling me a dumbass.

                    This is very obviously bullshit. When and where did this supposedly happen? Can you link to it? It’s incredibly hard to believe that nobody on here would have been able to link to the clip I did. Not to mention that any media depicting the SS is going to have it. Who was “unable” to provide a single screenshot of the SS?

                    Clearly you’re ignoring the context of the conversation

                    Where in the context was it discussed whether Platner knew what it was when he got it? That’s something you added as part of moving the goalposts.

                    I see this a lot from you lot. It starts off with, “Nobody would know that symbol” and then when pressed you retreat into “He probably didn’t know what it was when he got it.” Nobody in this conversation said shit about whether he knew what it was when he got it, until you pulled it out of your ass and assigned that position to me, insisting based on nothing that that was the “context.”