I swear, one more time I hear about this shithole being called a good example of a communist country
it was a pretty good first attempt
I’m gonna obliterate someone’s crotch.
It was a fucking earth shattering dictaroship without an ounce of actual communal care and cooperation.
nah it actually had pretty sick vibes and legit community, lots of bureaucracy doesn’t wipe that out of existence. If you could give me a time machine and a passport fabricator it’s hard to imagine a better time and place to live than this place newly built: The Crowning Gem of Soviet Urban Planning (Lazdynai, Lithuania)
It was so good it left a scar on the entire post-second world sphere, which is now super conservative, America-enthusiastic and exclusively vote on libertarian parties.
Such a great fun they had they now get a PTSD when you say socialism in their vicinity.
But what am I saying, I’m just some Polish guy who now has to deal with this post-soviet national resentiment that makes it impossible to build any lasting socialist structures in my country.
Things being extremely bad when socialism is defeated is only evidence that the structure was not strong enough to last, not that it was bad at delivering for the people. The numbers are endless and clear, but summarized best by one fact: the collapse of the USSR was followed by the worst mortality crisis in human history outside of war time.
The horrors of the post-Soviet world are the horrors of the post-Soviet world. The Soviet union deserves blame for being weak enough to fall and allow therefore allow these things to happen, which is the result of deep structural problems in the USSR and rest of the socialist bloc. The USSR, obviously, was not a perfect utopia or it would not have died and millions of innocent people along with it. It was the first ever large scale attempt to build socialism, under impossibly hostile circumstances, and still achieved enormous, world-historic strides in the improvement of human life and community. To say “there’s nothing to learn, it was the devil’s work, the most evil system of all time” when you, right now, are living under its way worse successor seems ridiculous. There’s nothing contradictory about appreciating the enormous achievements of the USSR and the smaller socialist states around it while carefully studying to avoid its enormous flaws.
If it was so prosperous then please do explain to me how is it that regions that were prosperous before communism, such as Czechia or East Germany, Western Poland etc, ended up being just so extremely under the water compared to The West when the Iron Curtain has fallen?
Why do the older generations keep saying that the communism was a reign of terror with extreme poverty and that right now we’re living in times of great prosperity? Ah, but you probably don’t know those people anyways, the ones that survived the communism.
Why were there so many rebellions in Eastern Bloc countries and why did the USSR had to suppress them with tanks and violence?
I’m a democratic socialist myself (demsoc, not socdem!), and the only thing I genuinely miss from the times of Polish Socialist Republic is the fact that we were able to develop heavy industry and grand projects that are now impossible to go through with the post-soviet libertarian boiling pot politics.
it was a pretty good first attempt
nah it actually had pretty sick vibes and legit community, lots of bureaucracy doesn’t wipe that out of existence. If you could give me a time machine and a passport fabricator it’s hard to imagine a better time and place to live than this place newly built: The Crowning Gem of Soviet Urban Planning (Lazdynai, Lithuania)
It was so good it left a scar on the entire post-second world sphere, which is now super conservative, America-enthusiastic and exclusively vote on libertarian parties.
Such a great fun they had they now get a PTSD when you say socialism in their vicinity.
But what am I saying, I’m just some Polish guy who now has to deal with this post-soviet national resentiment that makes it impossible to build any lasting socialist structures in my country.
Things being extremely bad when socialism is defeated is only evidence that the structure was not strong enough to last, not that it was bad at delivering for the people. The numbers are endless and clear, but summarized best by one fact: the collapse of the USSR was followed by the worst mortality crisis in human history outside of war time.
The horrors of the post-Soviet world are the horrors of the post-Soviet world. The Soviet union deserves blame for being weak enough to fall and allow therefore allow these things to happen, which is the result of deep structural problems in the USSR and rest of the socialist bloc. The USSR, obviously, was not a perfect utopia or it would not have died and millions of innocent people along with it. It was the first ever large scale attempt to build socialism, under impossibly hostile circumstances, and still achieved enormous, world-historic strides in the improvement of human life and community. To say “there’s nothing to learn, it was the devil’s work, the most evil system of all time” when you, right now, are living under its way worse successor seems ridiculous. There’s nothing contradictory about appreciating the enormous achievements of the USSR and the smaller socialist states around it while carefully studying to avoid its enormous flaws.
If it was so prosperous then please do explain to me how is it that regions that were prosperous before communism, such as Czechia or East Germany, Western Poland etc, ended up being just so extremely under the water compared to The West when the Iron Curtain has fallen?
Why do the older generations keep saying that the communism was a reign of terror with extreme poverty and that right now we’re living in times of great prosperity? Ah, but you probably don’t know those people anyways, the ones that survived the communism.
Why were there so many rebellions in Eastern Bloc countries and why did the USSR had to suppress them with tanks and violence?
I’m a democratic socialist myself (demsoc, not socdem!), and the only thing I genuinely miss from the times of Polish Socialist Republic is the fact that we were able to develop heavy industry and grand projects that are now impossible to go through with the post-soviet libertarian boiling pot politics.