In this context, the translation is absolutely correct in my opinion. I can’t really think of a context where “lolicon” being translated to pedophile would be incorrect. -con like siscons, brocons, etc are complexes or obsessions. Lolicon is a complex or obsession with, drawn or not, prepubescent minors.
Loli, not lolicon, can refer to both an individual who looks like the target of a lolicon (a prepubescent minor), or is short for Lolita fashion, which is meant to be a cute fashion style inspired by Victorian-era dress with archetypes like goth-loli.
For those wondering why Japan, a very shame based culture, feels more accepting of this, and why it seemingly appears in anime/manga culture so much, CSAM possession was legal, technically, up to 2014. CSAM production and dissemination only started being legislated in 1999, with much pressure from the west. Again, it is absolutely abhorrent and a crime, but culturally in Japan, many feel they are being forced to adapt at a rapid pace. There’s a tangential relation between western conservatives and Japan when it comes to acceptance and cultural change (I wasn’t referring to pedocon theory, but hey, it’s a theory like gravity at this point with it being proven each passing month.)
Bonsai Pop’s video on the Rurouni Kenshin mangaka goes into detail on this as he was found with a massive collection of this material. Which, again, was legal for him to own 3 years prior (he was arrested in 2017) regardless of how ethically abhorrent it was. Which it absolutely is. I believe his case was a case of hurt people hurt people in that he was abused as a minor and developed his complex. He never directly harmed children as far as we know, but he did own a large CSAM collection, which absolutely furthers a climate in which exploitation thrives. It’s believed he was likely being used as an example by the state given how public the arrest was while how minor the punishment was.
Japanese react to imposing of our morals on them like westerners would react to criminalization of drinking alcohol. I wonder how strange and abhorrent elements of our culture must look to them.
Then again, I consider french to be weird and borderline pro-crime for prohibiting the paternity tests…
I disagree. A lolicon can also be defined as a person into lolicon, with no interest in actual children. Since she’s holding a lolicon manga, this would be a valid interpretation. Whether it would be a more correct translation, I don’t know
He never directly harmed children as far as we know
I absolutely loathe the entire apologist view of “They never directly harmed a child, they just had 45tb of pictures of children being harmed”
Buying/trading CSAM material IS directly harming children, because your activities are actively creating and furthering a demand for children to be molested and raped, Which very much means your hand is actively causing the harm, whether its directly against the child, or every other activity that creates the market that encourages molestation and rape. everyone participating in it is actively and directly harming children.
I was merely stating it as a fact of the case in why he, potentially, only received a light fine and no jail time. That’s on the Japanese court system.
The American system is nearly as bad (arguably worse) so long as you are wealthy and/or have political power.
Because yes, everyone involved, both directly and indirectly, create the climate in which exploitation thrives.
Buying/trading CSAM material IS directly harming children, because your activities are actively creating and furthering a demand for children to be molested and raped,
i get your argument, but who says they paid for it?
I’m not the person you’re talking to, but in today’s attention economy-centric society, there are more currencies supporting “content” markets than just money.
In this context, the translation is absolutely correct in my opinion. I can’t really think of a context where “lolicon” being translated to pedophile would be incorrect. -con like siscons, brocons, etc are complexes or obsessions. Lolicon is a complex or obsession with, drawn or not, prepubescent minors.
Loli, not lolicon, can refer to both an individual who looks like the target of a lolicon (a prepubescent minor), or is short for Lolita fashion, which is meant to be a cute fashion style inspired by Victorian-era dress with archetypes like goth-loli.
For those wondering why Japan, a very shame based culture, feels more accepting of this, and why it seemingly appears in anime/manga culture so much, CSAM possession was legal, technically, up to 2014. CSAM production and dissemination only started being legislated in 1999, with much pressure from the west. Again, it is absolutely abhorrent and a crime, but culturally in Japan, many feel they are being forced to adapt at a rapid pace. There’s a tangential relation between western conservatives and Japan when it comes to acceptance and cultural change (I wasn’t referring to pedocon theory, but hey, it’s a theory like gravity at this point with it being proven each passing month.)
Bonsai Pop’s video on the Rurouni Kenshin mangaka goes into detail on this as he was found with a massive collection of this material. Which, again, was legal for him to own 3 years prior (he was arrested in 2017) regardless of how ethically abhorrent it was. Which it absolutely is. I believe his case was a case of hurt people hurt people in that he was abused as a minor and developed his complex. He never directly harmed children as far as we know, but he did own a large CSAM collection, which absolutely furthers a climate in which exploitation thrives. It’s believed he was likely being used as an example by the state given how public the arrest was while how minor the punishment was.
Japanese react to imposing of our morals on them like westerners would react to criminalization of drinking alcohol. I wonder how strange and abhorrent elements of our culture must look to them.
Then again, I consider french to be weird and borderline pro-crime for prohibiting the paternity tests…
The Japanese chuds think they should be the ones imposing their culture.
No, impossible! They are not white enough for that! /s
I disagree. A lolicon can also be defined as a person into lolicon, with no interest in actual children. Since she’s holding a lolicon manga, this would be a valid interpretation. Whether it would be a more correct translation, I don’t know
I absolutely loathe the entire apologist view of “They never directly harmed a child, they just had 45tb of pictures of children being harmed”
Buying/trading CSAM material IS directly harming children, because your activities are actively creating and furthering a demand for children to be molested and raped, Which very much means your hand is actively causing the harm, whether its directly against the child, or every other activity that creates the market that encourages molestation and rape. everyone participating in it is actively and directly harming children.
I don’t disagree.
I was merely stating it as a fact of the case in why he, potentially, only received a light fine and no jail time. That’s on the Japanese court system.
The American system is nearly as bad (arguably worse) so long as you are wealthy and/or have political power.
Because yes, everyone involved, both directly and indirectly, create the climate in which exploitation thrives.
i get your argument, but who says they paid for it?
I’m not the person you’re talking to, but in today’s attention economy-centric society, there are more currencies supporting “content” markets than just money.
hmm yeah ok
No one? I assume you are assuming so due to me using the word market.
While it paying for it certainly exists, there is also trading. He could have easily traded for it.
Besides,the why or what he exchanged for it is irrelevant to the point that he was a fucking pedophile that had a metric fuckton of CSAM.