Yes. But think about it this way: if companies are going to use AI to rip us all off, we might as well use it to rip them off too. (No shade at Nintendo who doesn’t resort to AI slop…)
Technically using it means burning stupid Wall Street investors’ money, since none of these AIs are profitable. Using it more would accelerate any potential bankruptcy.
Fair point! Though it does feel a bit like sinking a billionaires yacht, Yeah they are hurt but now the ocean is polluted. And they still have infinite money.
I do, actually. More than some things, less than others. Just like nearly everything else. It’s not as bad as golf courses, when it comes to water usage - and especially not when comparing water pollution, golf courses are so much worse due to the pesticides and herbicides.
Not as much electricity as all the combined servers and individual clients of video games. Less than is used to light all the Christmas lights at all major cities for the season in which they’re lit.
Unlike you, I don’t resort to ad hominems, as facts stand on their own without needing insults to bolster them. As a fact, though, you sound like an ignorant bandwagoner who read too many articles meant to induce panic and now believe the sky will fall as a result of running different software on hardware we already had.
I suspect this is a result of your conflating data centers and artificial intelligence. You do know there’s a difference, right? You can use AI with zero damage to the planet. I do daily; using the same GPU I use for gaming (for a fraction of the electricity of actual gaming) and powered by a solar array. It’s less harmful to the planet than turning on my stove to cook a meal.
However, decompilation and recompilation are areas that AI could theoretically be extremely effective (due to the fact that much of it is based on educated guesswork in the first place, whether done by humans or not), and being able to turn proprietary software into plausibly “open source” software will be an effective tool for fighting back against big tech corporations (Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) as well as for preserving classic, beloved software and games.
Listen, I’m as big of a generative AI hater as the next guy, if not bigger. I see myself as much as an artist and musician as a programmer, and I hate big tech for what I can only call the most egregious act of IP theft and cultural strip-mining in human history. It’s plagiarism on an industrial scale. It’s ethically wrong, economically a house of cards, and generally fucking sucks.
But at the same time, machine learning is an effective method of data-driven guessing and pattern recognition. Arguably it is the most effective method, which is why it’s much easier to use ML to make a program for things like image recognition than traditional algorithmic coding. Having recently read Chris Lewis’ blog on the decomp/recomp effort for Snowboard Kids 2 on the N64, it’s clear that LLMs are absolutely not a silver bullet of decompilation (at least, not yet), but it is almost an ideal problem space for what ML really does–guess shit based on a big pool of data.
So, my feeling is, if big tech companies are going to leverage these tools to steal from the people, then I think turnabout is fair play and I look forward to seeing the people leverage these tools for relative good. If people who sell art are going to be pushed out of the market due to slop generators, then it’s only fair for people to reverse engineer any and all of the software that matters in return.
Yes. But think about it this way: if companies are going to use AI to rip us all off, we might as well use it to rip them off too. (No shade at Nintendo who doesn’t resort to AI slop…)
Yeah but fighting ai with ai doesn’t get rid of ai.
I hate to break it to you, but we’re never getting rid of AI.
Like how we will forever have trace amounts of cesium and PFAS/microplastics in our blood, AI generated content is going to be around in most things.
The question is will you also use it for good, or just leave it for the bad actors only?
How the fuck is me using it helping anything?
Technically using it means burning stupid Wall Street investors’ money, since none of these AIs are profitable. Using it more would accelerate any potential bankruptcy.
Fair point! Though it does feel a bit like sinking a billionaires yacht, Yeah they are hurt but now the ocean is polluted. And they still have infinite money.
You keep tilting at those windmills, Don. You’ll get them eventually! So long as the ‘monstrous giants’ don’t interfere, of course.
You have any idea how much damage ai is doing to the planet? Probably not cause you sound like an insufferable cunt.
I do, actually. More than some things, less than others. Just like nearly everything else. It’s not as bad as golf courses, when it comes to water usage - and especially not when comparing water pollution, golf courses are so much worse due to the pesticides and herbicides.
Not as much electricity as all the combined servers and individual clients of video games. Less than is used to light all the Christmas lights at all major cities for the season in which they’re lit.
Unlike you, I don’t resort to ad hominems, as facts stand on their own without needing insults to bolster them. As a fact, though, you sound like an ignorant bandwagoner who read too many articles meant to induce panic and now believe the sky will fall as a result of running different software on hardware we already had.
I suspect this is a result of your conflating data centers and artificial intelligence. You do know there’s a difference, right? You can use AI with zero damage to the planet. I do daily; using the same GPU I use for gaming (for a fraction of the electricity of actual gaming) and powered by a solar array. It’s less harmful to the planet than turning on my stove to cook a meal.
No, sadly it wont.
However, decompilation and recompilation are areas that AI could theoretically be extremely effective (due to the fact that much of it is based on educated guesswork in the first place, whether done by humans or not), and being able to turn proprietary software into plausibly “open source” software will be an effective tool for fighting back against big tech corporations (Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) as well as for preserving classic, beloved software and games.
Listen, I’m as big of a generative AI hater as the next guy, if not bigger. I see myself as much as an artist and musician as a programmer, and I hate big tech for what I can only call the most egregious act of IP theft and cultural strip-mining in human history. It’s plagiarism on an industrial scale. It’s ethically wrong, economically a house of cards, and generally fucking sucks.
But at the same time, machine learning is an effective method of data-driven guessing and pattern recognition. Arguably it is the most effective method, which is why it’s much easier to use ML to make a program for things like image recognition than traditional algorithmic coding. Having recently read Chris Lewis’ blog on the decomp/recomp effort for Snowboard Kids 2 on the N64, it’s clear that LLMs are absolutely not a silver bullet of decompilation (at least, not yet), but it is almost an ideal problem space for what ML really does–guess shit based on a big pool of data.
So, my feeling is, if big tech companies are going to leverage these tools to steal from the people, then I think turnabout is fair play and I look forward to seeing the people leverage these tools for relative good. If people who sell art are going to be pushed out of the market due to slop generators, then it’s only fair for people to reverse engineer any and all of the software that matters in return.