• stylusmobilus@aussie.zone
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    19 hours ago

    you have no idea what you’re talking about

    The sum of your argument, because it’s easy, it’s lazy and it hurts, I know

    f there was near perfect turnout

    You’d have vastly different governments than you have now and you’re a liar if you say otherwise. Jesus, you’ve got evidence in front of you for that one

    21 million people don’t have IDs

    And not all of them are prevented from that

    which says a lot about…

    It might, it’d also suggest a fair few aren’t willing

    voting day is not a holiday in the US

    And if US workers aren’t either building this on when they take the job, ignoring it, doing postal or absentee or finding a work around that’s on them; I would be. But you vote, if you can.

    only 15% don’t vote by choice

    That’s enough to bring the total vote to 80% or better. Thats a decent number. That’s genuinely enough.

    I know you want

    No, you know jack shit, your go to for me. I want the US and its people to thrive and rebuild their country, because a strong, morally standing US is good for the world. That I tell the truth about their issue and hold a mirror up doesn’t make me feel good, in fact I hate it.

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      15 hours ago

      You’d have vastly different governments than you have now and you’re a liar if you say otherwise. Jesus, you’ve got evidence in front of you for that one

      Your ignorance makes you think I’m a liar. The evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that a) popular opinion has ZERO effect on legislation passing and b) gerrymandering is more powerful than voting and always has been.

      I want the US and its people to thrive and rebuild their country

      Then you’re a fool. The US is a white supremacist, misogynist, mass murdering, global force of destruction. It’s the inheritor of the white supremacist ChristoFascist European empire that created your country through genocide and mass rape and torture. WHether the US thrives or not, it’s still a demon.

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        14 hours ago

        The evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates

        That if you get out and vote in primaries and elections, you’ll get the people you want in.

        Then you’re a fool

        Lmao. You think a broken United States is good for the current world and you’re calling me a fool?

        It’s the inheritor….

        Here we go, fuckin fart sniffing. Are you going to run when it goes down? Who the fuck would want you around?

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          14 hours ago

          That if you get out and vote in primaries and elections, you’ll get the people you want in.

          Again, this literally hasn’t mattered for the entirety of the history of the USA. I don’t want to the country to be a mass murdering super villain. I vote for anti-war people. What happens? The USA has been at war for 99% of it’s existence. Literally 7 years out of 250 were without war, and most of those 7 were when we had mass chattel slavery. Get it through your head. Even if you get the people you want into office, the Senate was designed from the beginning to be a structure that works against the voters. Literally, by design, by the founders, explicitly.

          You think a broken United States is good for the current world and you’re calling me a fool?

          The US is not broken because of who gets into office. The US is broken because it’s fundamentally broken and always has been. It’s a settler state that exist ONLY because of a papal decree. The US Supreme Court has ruled on that. And no, that wasn’t a Republican appointee, it was Ruth Bader Ginsberg who published that majority opinion. The US is broken because of what it is, not because of which leaders run it. You’re arguing that we should fix the Titanic by changing captains.

          Are you going to run when it goes down? Who the fuck would want you around?

          Listen, you big bold white masculine fuck. No one needs your brand of bullshit anymore. Your obsolete. Your world is dying. You know who talks like you do? Hegseth. Get. Bent.

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            11 hours ago

            I don’t want…I vote

            I know. Well, thanks for clarifying you vote at least. Do I need to reestablish this isn’t a personal thing? I hardly think most around here, if they vote, are red voters.

            The problem is broader than those who vote well. There’s a massive subsection who can and don’t participate. Despite your view on my knowledge of the bias toward conservatives, the only easy way to a decent government on a society built on slavery and theft as I think you put it, is to vote. Well, now since you let the fascists back in it’s probably peaceful shutdown, but the options are limited to the two. That’s it. You’re not overthrowing it, the only thing you’re doing, one way or the other, is bending it to at least let you live a life.

            fundamentally broken and always has been

            Well…fix your shit. It’s your shit, the one and only shit you got and there’s limited ways to fix it. Sounds like you don’t have a lot to lose really.

            Listen, you big bold masculine fuck

            Yep, that one hits home every time. Not many of us want chickenshits mate. As has been pointed out our countries are fascist shitholes in their own way as well and we’ll have to deal with that without having to care for Americans running from a vote result.