“I don’t personally so I maintain what I personally consider to be a better outcome for the world in my mind.”
Stop acting like you’ve both thought this through deeply and aren’t responsible for the consequences of what you advocate for. This is not some fucking opinion on a movie or video game, you are talking about real people who contributed to real violence within a real system that requires that violence to exist and rewarded them for facilitating it. Yes, when you sit here and act as though Nazi reform is more important than whatever their victims want, you are advocating for a way of thinking that correlates with actions that just so happen to devalue the harm done to victims of racism, sexism, ableism, transphobia, queerphobia. It does not matter what would be best if we had a thousand years without capitalism or settler-colonialism to reform these men with, we don’t have that and never will. We do have the consequences of their actions, and the people it affects.
Stop hiding around “my personal opinion” or the notion that you’re somehow even remotely concerned about benefitting others, you aren’t concerned, but you are responsible for what you say.
If we’re talking about taking action that’s a very different story. Of course moments require action but we are assuming neither you or I or anyone else is taking action thus such feelings or ideas exist only in the minds of people and not in physical reality. In this circumstance I’m not sure what you wishing for someone’s death in your mind is going to do for anyone but yourself and you’re more than free to do it. Obviously I would prefer people causing harm to stop, denounce their actions, and repent. It’s not that it never happens but it is uncommon, typically it is a far worse punishment than death so most tend to avoid it at all costs.
That is people are far more likely to choose death than admit that they were truly wrong. I still maintain those committing awful acts and embodying needless and avoidable human suffering would leave a greater mark on those like them or those who wish to be like them if they do indeed change instead of just die preaching the same old thing with all their words and actions intact for their followers and copycats.
There’s a reason the worst thing to almost all religions are people who left the faith but were once very deep into the faith. They know it’s the number one way you change people’s minds and kill not a person but an idea.
When people just die it doesn’t do much to change anything aka all their followers and believers are still there following and believing just the same.
“I don’t personally so I maintain what I personally consider to be a better outcome for the world in my mind.”
Stop acting like you’ve both thought this through deeply and aren’t responsible for the consequences of what you advocate for. This is not some fucking opinion on a movie or video game, you are talking about real people who contributed to real violence within a real system that requires that violence to exist and rewarded them for facilitating it. Yes, when you sit here and act as though Nazi reform is more important than whatever their victims want, you are advocating for a way of thinking that correlates with actions that just so happen to devalue the harm done to victims of racism, sexism, ableism, transphobia, queerphobia. It does not matter what would be best if we had a thousand years without capitalism or settler-colonialism to reform these men with, we don’t have that and never will. We do have the consequences of their actions, and the people it affects.
Stop hiding around “my personal opinion” or the notion that you’re somehow even remotely concerned about benefitting others, you aren’t concerned, but you are responsible for what you say.
If we’re talking about taking action that’s a very different story. Of course moments require action but we are assuming neither you or I or anyone else is taking action thus such feelings or ideas exist only in the minds of people and not in physical reality. In this circumstance I’m not sure what you wishing for someone’s death in your mind is going to do for anyone but yourself and you’re more than free to do it. Obviously I would prefer people causing harm to stop, denounce their actions, and repent. It’s not that it never happens but it is uncommon, typically it is a far worse punishment than death so most tend to avoid it at all costs.
That is people are far more likely to choose death than admit that they were truly wrong. I still maintain those committing awful acts and embodying needless and avoidable human suffering would leave a greater mark on those like them or those who wish to be like them if they do indeed change instead of just die preaching the same old thing with all their words and actions intact for their followers and copycats.
There’s a reason the worst thing to almost all religions are people who left the faith but were once very deep into the faith. They know it’s the number one way you change people’s minds and kill not a person but an idea.
When people just die it doesn’t do much to change anything aka all their followers and believers are still there following and believing just the same.