• sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    Norway is a terrible example for a “country that has socialism”. They have the largest sovereign oil fund except the Saudis. They’re managing it incredibly well. But it’s never the less a country that oil built.

    Use Sweden or Denmark or Finland. But Norway is not a good example; anything would work in that country.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’ll get hate here (this instance/community) but I don’t give a fuck.

    There’s more than one way to skin a cat. I don’t care if it’s welfare capitalism, UBI, socialism or fucking whatever. SOMEONE needs to do SOMETHING to give people that work less profitable/high class/whatever jobs a decent humane life.

    Everyone’s work is important, otherwise it wouldn’t be done. And they deserve to live a decent life.

    Does that mean they go on intercontiental holidays to 5 star hotels? No. Does that mean they can afford food, heat, shelter and the ability to start a family? Yes.

    • okamiueru@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I don’t care if it’s welfare capitalism, UBI, socialism or fucking whatever.

      Shouldn’t you? I mean this is pretty basic fucking knowledge for some of the ways to go about it, and they are quite different. And it’s also not like you have to go 100% all in one of them either. Seems like what you want, is also the core ideology of social democracy with a strong welfare system. Here’s a thought: maybe that’s what you want, and you should care? I’m guessing that you live in a country so completely fucked in all available directions of politics, and in that process forgot what workers rights were 50 years ago.

      I live in Norway. People in otherwise underpaid professions such as teaching can afford to go on intercontinental holidays. Even more than once a year, if that’s what they want to do. Though I will agree that staying at a 5 star hotel would be a silly expense. That stuff still requires the perks of exploitative capitalism, for which teaching is too useful.

      Apologies if I’m being a bit rude. But the “I don’t want to care about how stuff is and works, but how stuff is and works shouldn’t be the way it is!” anti-intellectual attitude is annoying af.

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        communities based on specific ideologies don’t tend to accept other ways of solutioning… sometimes.

        EDIT : also, my approach/suggestion is “capitalism not so bad” which isn’t in line with the zoomer way of seeing things, and they’re right for it, but not right in solving the problems they have.