They want a surefire way to ID everyone. An internet ID is how you properly implement a teenage ban. They also avoid legal liability when countries expect them to show that they are not serving ads and content to children.
This increases the value of their collected data and the value of their adds.
The real way to keep children safe is to ban personal data gathering and making social media unprofitable. The alternative is federated social media. We don’t want incentives to mess with algorithms. We don’t want profiling of people. We don’t want ID theft. We don’t want centralisation.
These age laws are about indemnifying the platforms from any blame when kids are harmed and setting up better identification for their surveillance capitalism through age verification systems.
The alternative would have been actually cracking down on the algorims that drive extremism and paying moderators again (you know, actually making things better). But “banning” teenagers means that next time a kid kills themselves, meta can point out that the kid broke the rules by drawing a mustache on their face to trick the age verification system. Its the kids fault for sneaking in.
The ban defines social media in an extremely broad way. It’s basically almost every website with a social aspect to it, comments under a news article would apply.
Not only does it create a huge issue to have an unclear definition up to the interpretation of whomever will be taking advantage of it, it’s also not a good measure to protect anyone. Kids that are feeling isolated because of, for example, their gender, identity, or looks, and who were using social media anonymously as an escape, are the ones that will struggle.
And what do these bad effects cost? Massive, population-wide ID checks, that will need to be uploaded online, and France is soooo secure with their data breaches every ~3 days. So your ID information is in the wild, which will be heaven for hackers (who will consequently try even more to cause data breaches).
Social media are, in general, horrible. You want to make laws, make laws that extremely strictly ban all the shit that facebook, twitter and youtube and the likes do. Ban toxic algorithms (or algorithms altogether, no one needs anything else than a good search engine), make big platforms responsible for hate speech and actually punish them, and make it a huge, in-depth criminal investigation with extremely harsh punishments when a platform like Facebook is found to hide and protect pedocriminal rings. At the same time, increase education budgets a lot and teach kids how things work instead of letting them be thrown in the jungle with no clue what’s going on.
Also, you think that a 15-years old with no social media experience is going to be safe online? That’s doesn’t make sense. Make a 70 years old suddenly use the internet and they’ll also be lost, it’s not just about age but about technology literacy.
And when it’s basically all websites, and you require those to make money, which you have to make or capitalism kills you, you’re out of options and it’s too late.
I dont know the French law specifics, but other countries haven’t implemented a law banning children, they’ve implemented a law requiring id for adults. Meta & Co love your id.
Wanna bet Meta bought the lawmakers off?
Why would meta want to do that? Teenagers are a huge source of revenue for Meta.
They want a surefire way to ID everyone. An internet ID is how you properly implement a teenage ban. They also avoid legal liability when countries expect them to show that they are not serving ads and content to children.
This increases the value of their collected data and the value of their adds.
The real way to keep children safe is to ban personal data gathering and making social media unprofitable. The alternative is federated social media. We don’t want incentives to mess with algorithms. We don’t want profiling of people. We don’t want ID theft. We don’t want centralisation.
But we want capitalism! Hoorah!
That makes no sense. This is detrimental for social networks (but good for society at large)
These age laws are about indemnifying the platforms from any blame when kids are harmed and setting up better identification for their surveillance capitalism through age verification systems.
The alternative would have been actually cracking down on the algorims that drive extremism and paying moderators again (you know, actually making things better). But “banning” teenagers means that next time a kid kills themselves, meta can point out that the kid broke the rules by drawing a mustache on their face to trick the age verification system. Its the kids fault for sneaking in.
That’s a lot of ignorance.
The ban defines social media in an extremely broad way. It’s basically almost every website with a social aspect to it, comments under a news article would apply. Not only does it create a huge issue to have an unclear definition up to the interpretation of whomever will be taking advantage of it, it’s also not a good measure to protect anyone. Kids that are feeling isolated because of, for example, their gender, identity, or looks, and who were using social media anonymously as an escape, are the ones that will struggle.
And what do these bad effects cost? Massive, population-wide ID checks, that will need to be uploaded online, and France is soooo secure with their data breaches every ~3 days. So your ID information is in the wild, which will be heaven for hackers (who will consequently try even more to cause data breaches).
Social media are, in general, horrible. You want to make laws, make laws that extremely strictly ban all the shit that facebook, twitter and youtube and the likes do. Ban toxic algorithms (or algorithms altogether, no one needs anything else than a good search engine), make big platforms responsible for hate speech and actually punish them, and make it a huge, in-depth criminal investigation with extremely harsh punishments when a platform like Facebook is found to hide and protect pedocriminal rings. At the same time, increase education budgets a lot and teach kids how things work instead of letting them be thrown in the jungle with no clue what’s going on.
Also, you think that a 15-years old with no social media experience is going to be safe online? That’s doesn’t make sense. Make a 70 years old suddenly use the internet and they’ll also be lost, it’s not just about age but about technology literacy.
I’m so tired of saying it every time this is mentioned… thanks for arguing for marginalised kids should have internet access <3
I’m very very firmly aginst it for that very same reason. I.suspect isolating them is part of the motivation
Everytime something asks for my ID, I just abandon it and never use it again. I haven’t missed them
And when it’s basically all websites, and you require those to make money, which you have to make or capitalism kills you, you’re out of options and it’s too late.
Every politian should read this comment. I can’t believe the people who control our society are so tech-illiterate… see KOSA in the US :(
I dont know the French law specifics, but other countries haven’t implemented a law banning children, they’ve implemented a law requiring id for adults. Meta & Co love your id.