• danekrae@lemmy.world
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    They turn power into destroyed environment, by attempting to calculate an answer to questions like “why does two of my toes smell worse than the others?”.

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      Extra credit for using “does” instead of “do”, you really managed to capture the essence of this Great Age of Stupidity. 😆

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      Far worse friend. Mass surveillance and record keeping so the regime can never be toppled.

      Gotta store the data retrieved from flocks and your cars inside video cameras somewhere. All so it can be alalyzed to put a target on you if you speak out against the regime, then video and photo evidence created to throw you in jail for a crime you never did.

      This is reality , as nuts as it sounds. Truly an awful time to be alive! But we have iphones now, yay.

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    They’re building one of these massive pieces of shit to the south of me and it’s blocked my preferred route to my dispensary for a month, I didn’t even know why the road was closed at first, that’s how secretive this shit is. I keep up on the local news pretty well but I guess they are building like 3 of these things in the county south of me, we never got asked our opinion or feedback or anything, it should be a state wide question not just some desperate farmers or crooked legislators deciding the fate of the state. It effects everyone when they are tapping in to our precious great lakes water supply

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      Install infrasound measurement device and monitor data. Also track your mood, disiness, health. Benn Jordan has good video on it. More data to compare between before and after center is important.

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    Ostensibly they are for “data collection”.

    For average internet users they make AI slop.

    For the techno-fascists that are bankrolling them? Ask yourself why a bunch of loser fascists obsessed with neo-feudalism and killing free speech might want massive data centers accumulating all of your info. It can’t be good.

    Every one of these data centers needs to be destroyed

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      No. Ostensibly they are for processing. Data storage is a solved. The amount of storage available today is massive, abundant, and low power. These data centers are to house the over 12GW of Nvidia chips that were sold and are currently sitting in warehouses doing nothing. They don’t want to accumulate your info, they already have it. They want to process it in real time along with everything else they’re storing and capturing using these Nvidia chips.

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          Well, that’s a complicated story. Nvidia took out $25Bn in loans to make the chips. Microsoft has enough cash to survive for 80 years without making a single dollar of revenue starting today. So the first batch of chips were paid for with 1st party cash reserves. But then the a.i. companies emerged and they actually didn’t have enough cash to buy the chips. So Nvidia invested its cash reserves in the a.i. companies, and the a.i. companies then used that investment money from Nvidia to buy chips from Nvidia. So in the second large tranch of purchases, Nvidia was paying Nvidia.

          For data center construction, the a.i. companies can’t pay for data centers because they aren’t credit worthy enough for it. So data centers are predominantly being funded by the Magnificent 7 in one way or another. Some of the a.i. companies have partnered with a Mag7 sponsor to piggy-back on the Mag7 build outs and use their new data center space.

          Mag7 data centers are falling into two categories: 1st party and 3rd party. Mag7 data centers built 1st party are being funded directly by the capex budgets of Mag7. They have strong limits on how many simultaneous capex projects they can do because this money hits their balance sheets and each project is huge. But 3rd party builds do not have those limits. 3rd party builds are limited by lending, which is limited by risk. Essentially what’s happening is Mag7 OpEx budgets are being committed to future leases on data centers that aren’t built yet, and then banks are lending money to builders against those leases. The leases are them sold into the securities market so that the banks can maintain liquidity and keep the pipeline flowing.

          Which sounds a lot like the subprime mortgage crisis all over again. A whole bunch of financial institutions are sitting on massive securities that derive their value from the future revenues of leases for data centers that don’t exist yet, and the majority of data center projects are failing.

          In the end, there is no direct precise answer to “who’s paying them to do it” but the accurate holistic answer is “the blob” or “the machine”. The corporate-finance-military-industrial-state elite bloc.

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    They store, index, and retrieve data. That can be for web sites, search engine queries, or increasingly AI queries. AI queries take a lot of computing power.

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    They make funny bullshit made up images. And in return we lost accessible computing and collapse of both workforce market as well as ecology.

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    They’re just like any other data center, except bigger because that’s more efficient than building a bunch of smaller ones.

    AI data centers have a lot of GPUs and specialty hardware that use a lot of power, but they’re still just big buildings with lots of computers in them. They just sort of sit there, with air conditioners running 24/7.

    If they’re not the huge “hyper scale” type, you end up with a situation like in the article: Where they had to cram too many cooling units in too tight a tight space (to make up for the fact that the data center wasn’t built for its current workload).

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    One thought keeping me up at night is, if I were to destroy/damage a datacenter, and was found guilty, is there a way to not pay for the damages? Could I just get a life sentance instead of paying

    • For some of them, I think each rack costs like in the millions. A giant AI datacenter will have tonnes and tonnes of them. Do you think you could ever pay back even the tiniest fraction of 1 billion $?

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          No, that’s what bankruptcy is for. But of course, they won’t make you pay damages, you’re too poor and they’re not stupid. Once damage goes above $X it becomes a felony charge and they’ll make an example out of you so that no one else is brave enough to copy you

    • I fully expect to see an execution happen in my lifetime for someone destroying a data center.

      It’d be preferable for their hardware to be redistributed to people who could use it for open source things, but I’ll accept burning down or killdozering.

      Incidentally if you steal a bunch of super thick copper wiring from a data center construction site, strip it all down, and melt the copper into ingots, nobody asks questions about where you got the copper at the scrap place you sell it to. So make sure you don’t do things like that.

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      Do people usually have to pay for things when they destroy them? I don’t think I’ve heard of that generally

      Just don’t get caught though. Flee the country, lay low.