Aren’t US ebike regulations super generous, like to the point its pretty much just an electric equivalent to a 50cc bike with pedals on it.
Ours are so restricted I don’t even see the point of a legal one outside of disabled or elderly users. Once I am up to speed I usually cycle at just under 30kmh which is above the speed limit for pedal assist ebikes, IIRC most of Europe has that sort of limit. If there are a lot of stop/starts then maybe it could be more useful, but I tend to avoid roads like that in the first place.
Depends greatly on the state (and in some cases city too) you live in but many have speed limits on them of 25mph (among many other restrictions based on motor wattage breaking them into classes). Any faster, pedals or not, it’s considered an electric motorcycle with all the restrictions that apply there.
But the biggest issue is the lack of cycling infrastructure in general. A shitton of the US has little support for that kind of transport, or any support for those not in cars.
And there’s legal restrictions on what kinds of roads you can ride on as well.
Go 25mph then. At some point it just seems like looking for excuses. Tbh I hear the same sorts of excuses here from people trying to justify why they “have to” drive 800m to the corner shop.
It would literally be illegal for me due to the only road being an interstate bridge during part of my commute, not to mention riding at night on winding roads with no shoulder (blind corners abound) with speed limits of 50+ mph due to my work hours. And of course some roads that have a bike lane (rare in my neck of the woods but improving), it’s illegal in my state to ride any vehicle with a motor (yes even electric motors) in the bike lane. So I’d have to ride in traffic on a bike on aforementioned roads.
I’m not saying other people shouldn’t try to ride bikes or ebikes to work, I’m just saying for me that it’s not possible.
Stop living in massive cities then if they are so expensive. Always lived in towns rather then cities, can get anywhere by bike in not much time at all.
Oh no wages are a little lower. So is rent and tax. Plus much better access to green spaces generally - though I now live on the coast so green spaces are mostly replaced by blue ones. Decent green spaces are like 20 minutes away by bike rather than 5 now.
most small towns in america have no jobs that pay a living wage.
that’s why people drive 3-4 hrs a day to a city. so they can afford to live.
glad you live in your little bubble, did you inherent your home from your parents too, like every other lazy townie? not everyone gets hand outs like that in life. they have to pay their own way and their inherent little to nothing.
people live where this is economic opportunity, because they need it to survive. many folks jobs don’t exist in rural areas.
you realize there is a whole other 6 continenets, 5 of which aren’t europe where many people live? that has massively large distances between population centers.
If your shitbag local government isn’t developing mass transit, that’s your fault. Start making some elected officials miserable until they start funding a real transit network.
But don’t pretend like your choice to shit on the only habitable planet we have for the minor convenience of having a stupid little zoom-zoom cage isn’t just that: a choice.
my shitbag local government has the best mass transit in the country by many metrics.
still, it doesn’t go to rural areas or anywhere that isn’t a wealthy suburb full of white people.
but yeah, i’ll get write on that. ii’ll just donate a few trillion to my local government so they can build electrify trains through all 351 towns and cities in my state.
Replace car with bike and no longer need insurance. Insurance companies hate this little trick!
Oh I wish I could but my local infrastructure ain’t human centered, it’s car centered.
I may only be 13 miles from where I work but with roads near me being 50+mph with no shoulder or streetlights
Aren’t US ebike regulations super generous, like to the point its pretty much just an electric equivalent to a 50cc bike with pedals on it.
Ours are so restricted I don’t even see the point of a legal one outside of disabled or elderly users. Once I am up to speed I usually cycle at just under 30kmh which is above the speed limit for pedal assist ebikes, IIRC most of Europe has that sort of limit. If there are a lot of stop/starts then maybe it could be more useful, but I tend to avoid roads like that in the first place.
Depends greatly on the state (and in some cases city too) you live in but many have speed limits on them of 25mph (among many other restrictions based on motor wattage breaking them into classes). Any faster, pedals or not, it’s considered an electric motorcycle with all the restrictions that apply there.
But the biggest issue is the lack of cycling infrastructure in general. A shitton of the US has little support for that kind of transport, or any support for those not in cars.
And there’s legal restrictions on what kinds of roads you can ride on as well.
It’s a headache.
Go 25mph then. At some point it just seems like looking for excuses. Tbh I hear the same sorts of excuses here from people trying to justify why they “have to” drive 800m to the corner shop.
It would literally be illegal for me due to the only road being an interstate bridge during part of my commute, not to mention riding at night on winding roads with no shoulder (blind corners abound) with speed limits of 50+ mph due to my work hours. And of course some roads that have a bike lane (rare in my neck of the woods but improving), it’s illegal in my state to ride any vehicle with a motor (yes even electric motors) in the bike lane. So I’d have to ride in traffic on a bike on aforementioned roads.
I’m not saying other people shouldn’t try to ride bikes or ebikes to work, I’m just saying for me that it’s not possible.
so simple. if only everyone could live within a few miles of their workplace and all their other responsibilities.
oh wait, they can’t, unless they can afford crazy high rents of urban centers.
Yeah if only I could bike 35 miles each way every day to work.
I don’t know take a bus/train then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
those things don’t exist outside of urban centers.
i own a car because I like getting out of the city and to the countryside. also not possible by bicycle or public transit.
This is 15’ from a bus stop. What more could you want?
Shelter?
Like this? (1’ from previous photo location)
(Also this could actually be fun to GuoGuess)
Stop living in massive cities then if they are so expensive. Always lived in towns rather then cities, can get anywhere by bike in not much time at all.
Oh no wages are a little lower. So is rent and tax. Plus much better access to green spaces generally - though I now live on the coast so green spaces are mostly replaced by blue ones. Decent green spaces are like 20 minutes away by bike rather than 5 now.
most small towns in america have no jobs that pay a living wage.
that’s why people drive 3-4 hrs a day to a city. so they can afford to live.
glad you live in your little bubble, did you inherent your home from your parents too, like every other lazy townie? not everyone gets hand outs like that in life. they have to pay their own way and their inherent little to nothing.
people live where this is economic opportunity, because they need it to survive. many folks jobs don’t exist in rural areas.
and nobody in small town america rides bikes.
sounds like you are talking about europe.
Yes, I am talking about Europe. Why so aggressive about assuming I inherited anything? I haven’t.
you realize there is a whole other 6 continenets, 5 of which aren’t europe where many people live? that has massively large distances between population centers.
or not, i guess.
I could say the same thing about America.
If your shitbag local government isn’t developing mass transit, that’s your fault. Start making some elected officials miserable until they start funding a real transit network.
But don’t pretend like your choice to shit on the only habitable planet we have for the minor convenience of having a stupid little zoom-zoom cage isn’t just that: a choice.
my shitbag local government has the best mass transit in the country by many metrics.
still, it doesn’t go to rural areas or anywhere that isn’t a wealthy suburb full of white people.
but yeah, i’ll get write on that. ii’ll just donate a few trillion to my local government so they can build electrify trains through all 351 towns and cities in my state.