• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    They learned from the Nazis that way.

    I think about the guy who killed himself after the CIA, his employer, dosed him with LSD without him knowing pretty often.

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        Yep! Though Project MK Ultra was founded on Nazi experiments specifically:

        During the early 1940s, Nazi scientists working in the concentration camps of Auschwitz and Dachau during World War II conducted interrogation experiments on human subjects. Substances such as barbiturates, morphine derivatives, and hallucinogens such as mescaline were employed in experiments conducted on Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Jewish, and other prisoners of war.[22] These experiments aimed to develop a truth serum which would, in the words of one laboratory assistant to Dachau scientist Kurt Plötner, “eliminate the will of the person examined.”[22] American historian Stephen Kinzer said that the CIA project was a continuation of these earlier Nazi experiments, as evidenced by MKUltra’s use of mescaline on unwitting subjects, replicating previous Nazi experiments conducted at Dachau.[23] Numerous Nazi scientists would be employed by the United States government after the war as part of Operation Paperclip, with some figures such as Kurt Blome becoming involved in MKUltra.[24]

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          Oh I thought you were referring to the whole “not reproducible and not following basic scientific method” part

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            I am. Neither the CIA nor the Nazis followed the basic scientific method and the results are not reproducible. They were really just torturing people and using their goal of developing a “truth serum” as justification.

            Japan had a similar unit that was torturing people under “scientific advancement”.