• Balldowern@lemmy.world
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    They have school stabbings. UK & Germany have grooming gangs. Paris is the crime capital of Europe.

    Please take your BS elsewhere.

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      Paris is the crime capital of Europe.

      The city with the highest crime index in Western Europe is Marseilles (67,03) second highest is Bimingham (63,96)

      Those would be the 8th and 13th place in the US. So you’d have to go through:

      • Memphis (77,85)
      • Detroit (72,82)
      • Baltimore (71,11)
      • Albuquerque (70,90)
      • Saint Louis (70,12)
      • Oakland (68,60) and
      • New Orleans (67,92)

      Before you arrive at Marseilles. Paris is at 57,88, that would be the 17th place in the US.

      (Source: Numbeo)

      At the same time the kind of crimes that are unusually high in Marseilles and Paris are pickpocketing and petty theft.

      The crimes that are unusually high in the US are violent crimes.

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      The billionaires have really done a number on you guys. I live in the UK, and this dystopian view of my country being pushed by Musk etc and swallowed by people in the US is absolutely wild. Yes, there’s problems with immigration, but this idea that we’re some sort of Islamic state, overrun by knife-weilding jihadist peados is laughable. Source: I’VE FUCKING LIVED HERE FOR 48 YEARS.

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      See my other comment (sorry, Voyager seems to generate weird share links).

      While violence at schools does exist in Europe, the numbers just don’t compare to the US.

      And don’t forget! The US has stabbings too, its just that you have so many shootings that a stabbing won’t make the news.

      Also, what are “grooming gangs”?

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        The US doesn’t only have stabbings too, it has more per capita than the UK.

        In addition to the gun murder disparity

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        Grooming gangs are paedophile rings that groom children. They became a cause celebre of the right because an extremely prominent case in the UK concerned one that was uncovered which consisted mainly of Asian and British-Asian men targeting white girls. Those white girls were, initially, dismissed by the police with the typical reasons. When concerns were raised, there was a reluctance to treat them seriously because those with responsibility were worried about perceptions of racism due to the race of those accused.

        In the end, the police did investigate and got convictions. I just described the Rotherham case, I think there was another with some similarities.

        I’ve never heard any international comparisons, and as far as I remember, white people commit more child sexual abuse in the UK per capita than other races, but obviously that doesn’t stop the right wing weaponising it.

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            I don’t think that would be an accurate summary of a situation in which children were groomed and raped, nor one in which the police eventually did their job, to be honest.

            Regardless of the right wing weaponisation, going the complete opposite way on everything they’re saying about it is a serious mistake.

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            A racist idea about immigrants while most grooming and assault happens inside families and other close relations. Thats for germany i dont know about others. Its a dogwhistle used by white man to hide their own horrifying crimes.

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              You are aware that Epstein and his friends constituted a grooming gang. They’re not just some myth, they’re a real and pervasive problem. Human trafficking is a pervasive and growing problem, and all of it is carried out by these gangs.

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                But that happend mostly in the US. In germany that kind of crime gets punished. Till now at least.

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                  Grooming gangs are a global phenomenon. Andrew (formerly known as Prince) is not an American. Loads of other friends of Epstein were not. And that is only one gang. Many others are far less known. People who think that because Epstein is dead the problem is over are deluding themselves.