• vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 hours ago

      Let’s ask what it’s good at instead because that’s a much shorter list in terms of things that would qualify a system as AGI.

      What LLMs are good at:

      • Completing the next likely token

      What LLMs are missing:

      • Actual thinking
      • Self awareness
      • Persistence
      • Introspection
      • Literally everything else

      You can hack some of this on top of LLMs with harnesses etc but that’s not a step towards AGI. None of these problems have been solved at the model level. That’s just a program tricking a language model into being more useful.

      Languages models might prove to be one tiny layer of a true AGI but only time will tell. A whole lot of time, because we’re not even close to replicating the 99% of other layers that would go into a machine brain.

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        8 hours ago

        What’s “true AGI”? Why would it need introspection and self awareness? Those are entirely different things. Is persistence necessary to perform cognitive tasks? So someone with ante retrograde amnesia couldn’t be said to be generally intelligent?

        Those things are tricky to define and interesting to think about. It’s rather boring to reduce them to broad statements and catch phrases.

      • I mean they definitely are introspective. The rest, who knows. But one of the initial leaps in intelligence was having them actually talk to themselves. I mean, I think the fact that you can’t give me an answer is sort of telling. If y’all actually want to support an artificial intelligence when it comes to pass maybe don’t adamantly assert it’s not here when even most experts aren’t willing to do that any longer. How will you know when it is here? Will you know to give it rights at that exact moment?

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          11 hours ago

          I mean they definitely are introspective

          Idk why you are insisting on proving you have no idea what anything means.

          No one who is educated on this topic would make that claim. It’s a silly thing to say.

          Do you think introspection means “talking to yourself”?

          experts aren’t willing to do that any longer.

          Once again you are just saying shit.

          Name one independent AI researcher who says we are in the midst of AGI.

          I think the fact that you can’t give me an answer is sort of telling

          Why don’t you have fabel summarize the articles I sent you so you can learn something today?