• fizzle@quokk.au
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    3 hours ago

    I’m not necessarily suggesting Doctorow is correct with this assertion, but on a macro scale what productivity gains will generate AI provide?

    Yes there’s a few skills it’s good at coding, medical research, and image recognition being a few.

    The genuine question is: has this improved everyone’s quality of life?

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      With ownership being as concentrated as it is now (more concentrated than during the guilded robber baron age), naturaly, most of the benefit flows to the biggest owners, and AI seems poised to deepen the wealth inequality further.

      In a scenario without the insane wealth concentration, and with a dignified and decent economic floor being guaranteed universally, I would be in favor of any AI that does not burn our planet to a crisp and stink up the neighborhood with the gas turbine exhaust.

      So in our world as it is, I have to be agaisnt the AI for the foreseeable future.

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      I work at a sales-first (read: no accountability) software company, ran by inept nepo-babies and a hostile VC. I frequently have to completely re-do all of the sales engineering work when a new project starts, because they refuse to standardize or talk to each other.

      After enough time doing this shit by hand, I took my best examples from previous projects and had an agent “fix the errors based on the conventions I established over here”. Instead of going line by line on these big serialized data formats now, I do about 10min of checking the results and editing down the change log.

      It’s wack that I have to re-do someone else’s job still, but at least I can force some version of standardization without killing myself on the tedious bits.

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        2 hours ago

        That doesn’t really answer my question. It’s changed your job, but has it improved your customers quality of life?

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          It’s improved mine. I save hours (that I didn’t really have anyhow) on meaningless tedium. I thought that was pretty obviously implied though?

          Maybe it helps to say that this was in no way forced on me. The stuff my employer has done to “adapt AI” is laughable and seemed to be nothing more than lip service to the execs who want to slap that sticker on the product.

          The gains for me personally have been strictly using it as a tool in niche situations. I prefer to do things the hard way when it’s for me but I’m not breaking my back for a corporation.

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          You’re getting direct examples of people its helped, and you keep brushing it off and asking what about everybody else. You’re obviously not going to get a single answer that affects everybody, and why do small successes not matter?

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            Because they’re not really successes.

            No one here is saying AI has reduce their workload so now they spend half their time catching butterflies.

            The answers are all saying that AI has automated some mundane task that wasn’t particularly important, and now they can spend their time doing something more interesting.

            Is the changes to their role, multiplied by millions of employees, actually better for humanity or society?

            In a way, this is what Doctorow is arguing: where is the data showing the productivity gains.

            My follow up question is, how are these productivity gains being used, if they exist.

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      I work in government and part of my job is writing memos or documents that nobody will ever read but that some congressional mandate requires me to have on file. I absolutely offload that to AI so I can do my real job.

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        2 hours ago

        This is another answer that misunderstands my question. It’s changed your job but has it improved the quality of life of the public served by your office ?

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      Not yet because people are still learning how to use it, but im literally ten times more organized than i was before i started using AI to automate notetaking planning calendaring all that.