On a post about Great Britains sex-based spaces laws that was painted as trans people being “banned” from public restrooms, I pointed out that they are not banned, they just have to use the ones that are for their sex.
Nothing incorrect there. 100% factually correct. Sex and gender are constantly spoken about as being separate things now, since sex is not changeable (despite what the person who replied thinks)
I was then permanently banned for “transphobia”:
Do they even understand what a phobia is?
you’re going to get downvoted because lemmy tends to leans hard into that toxic kind of “acceptance” that goes so far that they start trying to refute real life science. its extremely scary.
PTB. just be very careful about what you post to lemmy.
Girl, you’re siding with someone who is being outwardly transphobic. This is not a good look for you.
FYI, no one is arguing about changing chromosomes. People just don’t talk about it because it’s not important in the arguments about sex in society. When you take HRT, your body doesn’t function the same because hormones change that aspect of your sex. When you get bottom surgery it physically changes that external aspect of what we call sex. Sex can be changed. To argue otherwise is just wrong and transphobic.
No one claims that gender-affirming care changes X and Y chromosomes. Given that people’s reasons for excluding transgender people ultimately stem from transphobia and not chromosomes, they are entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
there are individuals in this comment section saying things like “sex is changeable”.
so, yes. the ignorance (borderline delusion) is quite rampant in general on lemmy. I’m not even transphobic. just unwilling to accept such statements that are blatantly false.
Asking a transgender woman to use the men’s restroom or locker room is the same as calling her a man, and is therefore transphobic, full-stop. Moving around the goalposts of definitions to one’s liking doesn’t make it any less so.
no, it isn’t. gender can be whatever a person chooses it to be. at any time and any place. man, woman, enby. that’s a thing one can be. or use a different gender if they feel that way.
i just said sex and gender are very different. because they are. one is changeable, one is not.
nobody is moving any goalposts. it’s just how human bodies are.
I’m all for public unisex changing rooms. for anyone of any sex or gender to use as they wish. freely.
but I don’t think its transphobic to allow female individuals to have a space away from male individuals. and vice versa.
The ‘but there’s a unisex bathroom’ argument is just as transphobic, as it still falsely labels transgender women as men.
Given that the sexual assault argument is not backed up by a preponderance of real world sexual assaults, merely the theoretical fears of transphobes, basing access to such spaces on birth-assigned sex and not gender denies the real differences between cisgender and transgender individuals, causing the latter unnecessary social and physical harm in the process.
i said nothing about a transgender woman being a man. not once. because they aren’t. they’re women.
never said anything about sexual assault either. just said that its ok to have female only spaces. just as its ok to have male only spaces.
it honestly sounds like you’re just waiting for any excuse to call someone transphobic. regardless of if they actually are or not.
just because you’re excluded due to sex doesn’t mean you’re invalid. at all. i never said it. never. it just means you’re not allowed to go there. that’s all.
there’s tons of spaces I’m not allowed to go. that’s how the world works sometimes.
I guess there’s one more place that you are excluded from now, but it’s not based on your gender. It’s based the fact you’re a TERF.
I’ve long suspected @Nima@leminal.space was either a TERF or a transmed but unfortunately she’s been really good at maintaining plausible deniability for a while so she hasn’t gotten banned for it yet.
Oof. Mic drop.
Yes, biological essentialism is a form of transphobia. Whether you understand it or not. It is the excuse behind the bathroom bans being pushed out by the UK and many US states, and it actually kills people. By arguing that trans women should be segregated from cisgender women and put in with men because they are “biologically male” you are promoting transphobia.
Almost no one in regular usage considers female or male as sexes separate from ‘woman’ or ‘man’ as genders in social situations; defining transgender people in that way is largely equating them with crossdressers.
If anything, those calling for bathroom bans are trying to erase the notion of gender as being separate from sex entirely as they by and large believe transgender women are men (and transgender men women), even if you don’t.
Ultimately, both positions deny transgender individuals equal status with the cisgender individuals they share a gender identity with, and are therefore both transphobic. It’s not possible to push for a bathroom ban without being transphobic.
Ultimately, sometimes it’s best just to agree to disagree.