• XLE@piefed.social
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    22 hours ago

    The foolishness was yours

    You don’t need to stoop to insults.

    what if it wasn’t Amazon that was ordering the books

    Then the responsible journalists wouldn’t publish the story. I don’t know why you have so much disdain for this independent group.

    I’d hate to hear your takes when Ed Snowden “illegally” leaked files to journalists.

    I’m thinking about how your concern (which is borderline concern trolling) leaves no way to hold billionaires and their unethical companies accountable.

    Like you said:

    “The ends (in hindsight) justify the means” is not a particularly wise stance.

    Just imagine if we applied this to the AI weirdos.

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      21 hours ago

      Then the responsible journalists wouldn’t publish the story.

      My concern isn’t the story, it’s the “hiding a tracking device in an order with an anonymous party”. That’s an invasion of privacy no matter who it’s done to. You’re presumably only okay with it because you dislike who it was done to, which is why I’m asking you to consider it without hindsight. What if it were done to someone other than Amazon? Do you still support that invasion of privacy? Why or why not?

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        12 hours ago

        Amazon isn’t a person, no corporation is. They should be subject to far more exposure.

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          6 hours ago

          They didn’t know it was Amazon when they hid a tracking device in someone’s order. They suspected, only.

          What if it had been a small bookstore, or just some collector? Do you approve of those people being tracked?

          Are you really not seeing this, or are you pretending to not get it?

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            2 hours ago

            What if journalists learned the names of innocent people in the Epstein files? Do the ends justify the means??? Oh no!

            The answer to your question is “then the article wouldn’t exist”.

            Your “concern” reads like concern trolling because the only way to satiate it is to shut down the free press, apparently to defend the space billionaire/pedophile billionaire class.

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              1 hour ago

              They sent a tracker in a book before the article was written. Before they knew it was Amazon. It only turned out to be Amazon, but when they sent it, it could have been anyone.

              I feel like I have to ask: are you associated with the source? Your inability to understand my very simple and straightforward point is suspicious.

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                1 hour ago

                They sent a tracker in a book before the article was written.

                Uh yeah. That’s why they knew it was Amazon. If it ended up somewhere else, the article would be different, and shills for space billionaires would have to come up with something else to concern troll about.

                I feel like I have to ask: are you associated with the source?

                No, but since this is your level of politeness and since you’ve ignored basic statements like “corporations are not people” and claims the Epstein class needs to be exposed, I need to ask: are they paying you to shill for them, or do you do it for free?

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                  1 hour ago

                  If it ended up somewhere else, the article would be different

                  Yes!! Finally!!

                  What if it ended up at a mom and pop store? Are they deserving of privacy?

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                    53 minutes ago

                    What if it ended up at a mom and pop store?

                    Then the article would probably be very different or not written at all, which is what I said already.

                    You’re not responding to the Epstein class question I see. Really makes you think