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    9 hours ago

    You say that, but drivers would lose their minds bicyclists followed the same rules. Example: Taking the whole lane.

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      9 hours ago

      I wish bikes just took the whole lane like a car. Half assing it either way is really the problem.

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        Also often called “taking the primary position”. It’s often done to prevent close passes by forcing drivers who want to overtake to wait for a gap in the next lane

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        I first found John Forester’s book in the library in the 90s, and it felt like a tome of secret, special knowledge. Then, I read more of it, and it did not match my experiences.

        Jason Slaughter has now done a very extensive takedown video on his Not Just Bikes channel, which is far more congruent with what I have seen. Taking the lane is effective when there’s no other choice, when it’s too narrow for cars to pass, but drivers will try anyway.

        Otherwise, there’s very little that’s safe about it.