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Original Post (by mod !Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus): https://lemmy.ml/post/51590161

My comment that got me banned:

Remind me which nations have their capitalists leashed and which nations are leashed by their capitalists again?

Mod’s response:

China Tobacco is so powerful it prevented the CCP from instituting smoking bans for years, all because it pays for the entire Chinese military budget. get the fuck out of here with that capitalist propaganda bullshit, campist.

My response I would have posted:

What in your view is the correct alternative to “campism”?

Also, your counterexample is literally a state-owned enterprise? Doesn’t sound like unleashed Capital to me.

I don’t think there is any rule in the sidebar that could be stretched to justify the ban.

My final thought is:

We share the same anti-imperial goals. I think your side should consider whether you have been duped by the very state powers you live under into hating the nations that should be your greatest allies in the fight.

P.S.S.

I don’t have to agree with everything China does, and I don’t. I don’t think they have a good tobacco policy. I think they cater too much to cultural reactionaries. I think they allowed 996/hustle culture to get out of control and aren’t reining it in seemingly at all.

But if we’re going to honestly talk about China we have to also address the industrial/economic “miracle”, the elimination of homelessness and extreme poverty, world-leading education, and “whole process people’s democracy” (and the extremely high legitimacy it has among the actual Chinese citizenry)

  • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Thank you for writing that out.

    Still sounds vague to me necause the actual process if decision making is not explained in a way that I can follow. Not just in your comment but also in the Wikipedia article.

    Like I understand the how the ideal process works in liberal democracy, how consensus decision making in small groups work or how a union in western europe makes decision. There are clear processes outlined and I am aware of atleast some of the informal things happening that could influence a decision.

    For me it would be helpful to have a transparent process explained that shows the for example how the nationwide consultation gets made and how its results get analyzed and put into the 5 years plan.