Flock cameras are worse, at least imo, because it’s “active”. The old cameras clocked your speed, took a picture, got processed and sent a fine. The flock cameras will misread your plate, determine you are a violent out of state felon, follow your movement and dispatch a squad to your location. You can be dragged out of the car at gunpoint before you even know what’s happening.
Theres also the universal database aspect that can expose all the different department’s data to each other, allowing officers to do things like saayy, stalk their ex-wives across state lines.
The history of movement they compile, the analysis tools available, the “proactive policing”, and the creep factor of always being monitored all roll together.
I agree that it not functioning properly is bad, but I don’t think we should frame it like that. These aren’t bad because they make mistakes. Fixing the mistakes doesn’t make them acceptable.
Tracking people’s movements at all times is bad. It removes people’s freedoms, and it can easily be used to quash dissent. Even functioning perfectly, it is far too much freedom lost for a small amount of safety.
my town got them but every thing flagged by the system has to be reviewed by a peace officer who officially gives the ticket and signs off that a violation actually occured.
Guess how that’s going to play out. The machine flags someone for review, the cop hits accept without looking into it, now an innocent is being swatted.
it has played out and that does not seem to be the case. the town itself is good about not trying to make the police a profit center. A cop doing this would likely face discipline or being let go from community feedback.
Are you mentioning this implying that’s sufficient oversight? The alert is minimally providing reasonable suspicion to track and investigate someone. Police don’t need to ticket or bring charges to ruin your day.
If everything “checks out” as a misflag hopefully they cut that person loose quickly, without issue. Unfortunately, there’s too many videos of innocent people being felony stopped, because cops defer to the lead and treat the situation as they’re trained.
Oorr people go running for unrelated reasons except they drew today’s lucky number for a stop, leading to incidents.
these are camera systems so the person is not there ot detain or let loose. Im don’t think you quite get the situation. its the way the town does red light cameras. so the system flags someone runs a red. a peace officer reviews the video of the incident and decides if they get a violation for running a red or if they were in the left and had to wait for traffic or such.
Flock cameras are worse, at least imo, because it’s “active”. The old cameras clocked your speed, took a picture, got processed and sent a fine. The flock cameras will misread your plate, determine you are a violent out of state felon, follow your movement and dispatch a squad to your location. You can be dragged out of the car at gunpoint before you even know what’s happening.
Theres also the universal database aspect that can expose all the different department’s data to each other, allowing officers to do things like saayy, stalk their ex-wives across state lines.
The history of movement they compile, the analysis tools available, the “proactive policing”, and the creep factor of always being monitored all roll together.
I agree that it not functioning properly is bad, but I don’t think we should frame it like that. These aren’t bad because they make mistakes. Fixing the mistakes doesn’t make them acceptable.
Tracking people’s movements at all times is bad. It removes people’s freedoms, and it can easily be used to quash dissent. Even functioning perfectly, it is far too much freedom lost for a small amount of safety.
my town got them but every thing flagged by the system has to be reviewed by a peace officer who officially gives the ticket and signs off that a violation actually occured.
Guess how that’s going to play out. The machine flags someone for review, the cop hits accept without looking into it, now an innocent is being swatted.
it has played out and that does not seem to be the case. the town itself is good about not trying to make the police a profit center. A cop doing this would likely face discipline or being let go from community feedback.
Are you mentioning this implying that’s sufficient oversight? The alert is minimally providing reasonable suspicion to track and investigate someone. Police don’t need to ticket or bring charges to ruin your day.
If everything “checks out” as a misflag hopefully they cut that person loose quickly, without issue. Unfortunately, there’s too many videos of innocent people being felony stopped, because cops defer to the lead and treat the situation as they’re trained.
Oorr people go running for unrelated reasons except they drew today’s lucky number for a stop, leading to incidents.
these are camera systems so the person is not there ot detain or let loose. Im don’t think you quite get the situation. its the way the town does red light cameras. so the system flags someone runs a red. a peace officer reviews the video of the incident and decides if they get a violation for running a red or if they were in the left and had to wait for traffic or such.