There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that viewing any kind of porn leads to any behavior other than possibly viewing more porn. People who view furry porn don’t suddenly decide they want to fuck animals, people who view rape fantasy material don’t magically become enthusiastic rapists. People who want to molest children don’t want it because they saw porn about it, they create CSAM as a result of their pre-existing pedophilic urges. Horse, then cart.
I said risk, not that it definitely would happen. Caution, do you know about that? Or reading comprehension.
It’s the same as when a chemical isn’t proven safe and businesses are not allowed to add it to your food. It may be completely safe, but just in case.
If the benefit of using something outweighs the risk it would be reasonable to allow it, but we are talking about something with no proven benefit other than letting pedos enjoy themselves.
Not to talk about the re-victimization of CSAM survivors because there are cases of victims appearing in AI generated material because of the training using the original rape media. But I guess you don’t care and would say they just look alike or some excuse.
You’ll go on making shit up and lazily attempting to discredit anyone who calls you out on it because there are no consequences and you don’t give a shit what’s true as long as it makes you feel better
AI-generated CSAM may also present other challenges not raised by the government in this appeal. For example, researchers have found that “a major dataset used for training image-generating AI contained hundreds of CSAM images.” Thus, unlike the virtual CSAM at issue in Free Speech Coalition, the market for AI-generated virtual CSAM images may impact the demand for actual CSAM on which the AI models can train.
Driving drunk is known to be dangerous. People who indulge in that behavior eventually hurt others. We don’t wait for a drunk driver to crash into someone before we arrest them. We arrest them the minute they turn on their car while drunk.
Someone who indulges in sexualizing children will eventually hurt a child and we should not need to wait for it to happen before we arrest them.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up. You don’t have research to support the claim that viewing any sort of pornographic material leads to behaviors depicted in that material, personal stories and confessions are not even close to the same thing as research and the fact that you bothered listing them together tells me that you’re a fucking moron
My dude anything is possible when you gatekeep information. You’re defending making child sexual abuse material (SCAM).
This is what the entire case was sort of about, and also explicitly not about. Does it harm children and the answer was the first amendment. That’s not really an answer. Honestly this isn’t a problem for the courts to figure out it’s a legislative problem and good luck with that.
My personal opinion, no one should be able to create any sexualized content of children regardless of whether or not it’s AI generated, authentic CSAM, hand drawn art, or anything else. Children should not be sexualized, I can’t believe this is up for debate.
I’m not defending anything, I’m attacking a baseless claim about pornography making people do things, learn to read dumbass. Your personal opinion is as worthless as the person I was initially responding to.
Oh wow. You seem to be awfully enraged about this. You must have some personal investment in people being allowed to view specific types of “pornographic material”. Well, don’t let something like facts or common sense get in the way of your crusade.
Most reasonable people would get angry about someone lying about shit and then telling them they’re wrong for calling them out and backhandedly accusing them of being pedophiles for disagreeing, and that is exactly what happens every time this topic comes up. I do have a vested interest in keeping the US from setting up a legal justification/precedent/system for incarcerating and killing trans people, of which I am one, and conservatives have been pushing the narrative that trans people are converting/targeting kids specifically for this reason. Any legal framework targeting pedophiles for anything other than actual crimes against children will be hijacked by conservatives and used against me and people I care about for the crime of being queer.
So you’re gonna pretend conservatives aren’t loudly equating the mere existence of trans people with threats to the children? Unfortunately some of us don’t have the luxury of ignoring reality because it actually affects us
Repeated exposure and normalization are basic psychology that would be introduced in even the most rudimentary Intro to Psychiatry text book. They are basic tools used by therapists, advertisers, politicians, ect, ect to do everything from good to bad like convince you that spiders aren’t horrifying, black people = white people, being gay is ok, ADHD doesn’t mean you’re defective, that you just should buy certain items because they match the lifestyle you think you deserve, and more recently that being a racist pedo rapist is acceptable as President.
You can claim that you are fighting for gay rights by tossing all the children to the pedos, but that is bullshit. If you are actually gay, then you are purposely equating homosexuality with pedophilia. The only way your argument wouldn’t automatically make you one of the dumbest people on the planet is if you were purposely throwing on the “gay” mantle to reinforce the association of “gay” with “pedo” (like some political huckster), or if you were a pedo trying to deflect people from calling you out as the pedo that obviously are.
You’re a complete fucking moron and dead wrong about absolutely everything, your “think of the children” bullshit will inevitably be co-opted by conservatives to target queers, history repeating itself because you’re too fucking stupid to learn from it.
You can think whatever you want about what creeps may or may not do hypothetically, until you’ve got actual evidence those thoughts are worthless
So it is worthy to risk children being raped to feed the paraphilia of few people. Okay, but not okay.
There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that viewing any kind of porn leads to any behavior other than possibly viewing more porn. People who view furry porn don’t suddenly decide they want to fuck animals, people who view rape fantasy material don’t magically become enthusiastic rapists. People who want to molest children don’t want it because they saw porn about it, they create CSAM as a result of their pre-existing pedophilic urges. Horse, then cart.
I said risk, not that it definitely would happen. Caution, do you know about that? Or reading comprehension.
It’s the same as when a chemical isn’t proven safe and businesses are not allowed to add it to your food. It may be completely safe, but just in case.
If the benefit of using something outweighs the risk it would be reasonable to allow it, but we are talking about something with no proven benefit other than letting pedos enjoy themselves.
Not to talk about the re-victimization of CSAM survivors because there are cases of victims appearing in AI generated material because of the training using the original rape media. But I guess you don’t care and would say they just look alike or some excuse.
There’s no evidence of any risk at all, you are full of shit
Well, since it seems you are a low level troll I’m going to stop feeding you. I’ll go on with my life while you feed on someone else.
You’ll go on making shit up and lazily attempting to discredit anyone who calls you out on it because there are no consequences and you don’t give a shit what’s true as long as it makes you feel better
You’re telling on yourself here. They disagree with you. Plenty do. Your argument is speculative, slippery slope shit. Deal with it or don’t.
from the article:
Completely irrelevant to the comment you’re responding to
Driving drunk is known to be dangerous. People who indulge in that behavior eventually hurt others. We don’t wait for a drunk driver to crash into someone before we arrest them. We arrest them the minute they turn on their car while drunk.
Someone who indulges in sexualizing children will eventually hurt a child and we should not need to wait for it to happen before we arrest them.
Driving drunk is what causes the wreck and the harm directly, viewing pornography has no possible direct result, your comparison is dumb as shit
Evidence? You mean other than the extensive research, clinical tests, personal stories and confessions of offenders?
Anything’s possible when you make shit up. You don’t have research to support the claim that viewing any sort of pornographic material leads to behaviors depicted in that material, personal stories and confessions are not even close to the same thing as research and the fact that you bothered listing them together tells me that you’re a fucking moron
My dude anything is possible when you gatekeep information. You’re defending making child sexual abuse material (SCAM).
This is what the entire case was sort of about, and also explicitly not about. Does it harm children and the answer was the first amendment. That’s not really an answer. Honestly this isn’t a problem for the courts to figure out it’s a legislative problem and good luck with that.
My personal opinion, no one should be able to create any sexualized content of children regardless of whether or not it’s AI generated, authentic CSAM, hand drawn art, or anything else. Children should not be sexualized, I can’t believe this is up for debate.
I’m not defending anything, I’m attacking a baseless claim about pornography making people do things, learn to read dumbass. Your personal opinion is as worthless as the person I was initially responding to.
Oh wow. You seem to be awfully enraged about this. You must have some personal investment in people being allowed to view specific types of “pornographic material”. Well, don’t let something like facts or common sense get in the way of your crusade.
Most reasonable people would get angry about someone lying about shit and then telling them they’re wrong for calling them out and backhandedly accusing them of being pedophiles for disagreeing, and that is exactly what happens every time this topic comes up. I do have a vested interest in keeping the US from setting up a legal justification/precedent/system for incarcerating and killing trans people, of which I am one, and conservatives have been pushing the narrative that trans people are converting/targeting kids specifically for this reason. Any legal framework targeting pedophiles for anything other than actual crimes against children will be hijacked by conservatives and used against me and people I care about for the crime of being queer.
I think I understand why you’re fighting so hard here in the comments
So you’re gonna pretend conservatives aren’t loudly equating the mere existence of trans people with threats to the children? Unfortunately some of us don’t have the luxury of ignoring reality because it actually affects us
Repeated exposure and normalization are basic psychology that would be introduced in even the most rudimentary Intro to Psychiatry text book. They are basic tools used by therapists, advertisers, politicians, ect, ect to do everything from good to bad like convince you that spiders aren’t horrifying, black people = white people, being gay is ok, ADHD doesn’t mean you’re defective, that you just should buy certain items because they match the lifestyle you think you deserve, and more recently that being a racist pedo rapist is acceptable as President.
You can claim that you are fighting for gay rights by tossing all the children to the pedos, but that is bullshit. If you are actually gay, then you are purposely equating homosexuality with pedophilia. The only way your argument wouldn’t automatically make you one of the dumbest people on the planet is if you were purposely throwing on the “gay” mantle to reinforce the association of “gay” with “pedo” (like some political huckster), or if you were a pedo trying to deflect people from calling you out as the pedo that obviously are.
You’re a complete fucking moron and dead wrong about absolutely everything, your “think of the children” bullshit will inevitably be co-opted by conservatives to target queers, history repeating itself because you’re too fucking stupid to learn from it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_grooming_conspiracy_theory
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
Tell it to the wiki article halfwit