• Chulk@lemmy.ml
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    I’ve always thought Operation Paperclip was one of the biggest travesties in modern history.

    This video states that Soviets did not have a version of this and that they “killed every Nazi.” Is that true though? I thought they had their own program (Operation Osoaviakhim) that recruited German scientists after the war.

    Genuinely asking because I used to believe that operation Paperclip was one of a kind until I was corrected by someone.

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      So the big difference between Paperclip and Osoaviakhim comes down to the US welcoming German scientists to the team versus Soviet get in the van approach. In the US, Operation Paperclip was basically a recruitment drive where guys like Wernher von Braun and his crew got sweet deals to come work for the military and later NASA, and over time they ended up as big shots with real political sway. For example, von Braun famously became the faces of the space race. The US government scrubbed their Nazi pasts and they were treated like VIPs, they got to live normal lives and integrated into American society and power structures.

      On the flip side, the Soviet Union’s Operation Osoaviakhim was more like a forced relocation program where over 2,000 German specialists and their families were rounded up in the middle of the night and shipped off to the USSR. They weren’t exactly thrown into Gulag labor camps, but they were effectively put in isolation, like on the island of Gorodomlya, and kept separate from the general population under strict supervision to work on Soviet rocket and tech projects in what was basically a gilded cage. While the Americans were rolling out the red carpet, the Soviets were treating these guys like captive assets rather than future citizens.

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        That makes sense given what I’m reading right now. I stumbled across an article that hand-waved this, saying that the only difference between the two operations was that the USA’s program was more successful in leveraging the knowledge from Nazi scientists/engineers. But it seems to me that the “success” (weird to call it that) was largely because of what you’re saying. The United States gave Nazis real paths to power when they succeeded, and thus allowed prominent Nazis to survive Germany’s fall. Like you said, the Soviets basically shipped them to an island at gunpoint and then released them once they were no longer deemed useful.

        Anyway, I appreciate the reply.