

It’s open source, and it’s not tied to a single server the way Signal is. If the original people developing it started doing problematic things, it’s easy to fork. One of the worst parts about Signal is how it’s designed to lock you into using their official app and server making it effectively impossible to have a compatible fork.


You deciding to invite your contacts to Signal isn’t really Signal being better though.


Do explain what makes it better than SimpleX Chat?


SimpleX Chat is an actual privacy focused app that’s easy to use and doesn’t harvest your phone number like Signal does https://simplex.chat/


Collecting your phone number on sign up is literally the opposite of anonymity. Perhaps you don’t understand what this word means?


No, privacy minded individuals do not use a platform designed to harvest phone numbers lmfao.
I love how ignorant chuds are always attracted to these threads like moths to a flame.


I guess we’ll see once production ramps up. I’m guessing they must’ve refined the process over the past couple of years so they’re getting better yields now. I also saw there was a domestic EUV machine being tested, but not sure how close it is to actual commercial use. It could be they’re just eat the cost of having an inefficient process in the meantime.


yeah that makes the whole thing even more sketch, I love how he never replies to the EFF link too


that’s my hope as well


it’s like capitalism just turns the whole of society into one giant casino


A reminder that your phone number is metadata. And people who think metadata is “just” data or that cross-referencing is some kind of sci-fi nonsense, are fundamentally misunderstanding how modern surveillance works.
By requiring phone numbers, Signal, despite its good encryption, inherently builds a social graph. The server operators, or anyone who gets that data, can see a map of who is talking to whom. The content is secure, but the connections are not.
Being able to map out who talks to whom is incredibly valuable. A three-letter agency can take the map of connections and overlay it with all the other data they vacuum up from other sources, such as location data, purchase histories, social media activity. If you become a “person of interest” for any reason, they instantly have your entire social circle mapped out.
Worse, the act of seeking out encrypted communication is itself a red flag. It’s a perfect filter: “Show me everyone paranoid enough to use crypto.” You’re basically raising your hand.
So, in a twisted way, Signal being a tool for private conversations, makes it a perfect machine for mapping associations and identifying targets. The fact that it operates using a centralized server located in the US should worry people far more than it seems to.
The kicker is that thanks to gag orders, companies are legally forbidden from telling you if the feds come knocking for this data. So even if Signal’s intentions are pure, we’d never know how the data it collects is being used. The potential for abuse is baked right into the phone-number requirement.


Thing is that there are actual privacy respecting messaging apps like SimpleX Chat. Signal isn’t one of them. It’s run by people associated with US intelligence, it’s hosted on a single server based in the US, and it actively harvests phone numbers. It’s incredible that people look at this and still claim it’s a private messaging app.


We’ll see how it goes, the US might just descend into a civil war scenario at this point.


I guess we’ll see, but I do think people will start adapting to their new reality out of necessity.


I really think it’ll depend on how bad the employment situation gets. At some point people are going to start realizing they’re not temporarily inconvenienced billionaires, and that their interests aren’t aligned with the oligarchs. Software devs have been largely insulated from general economic problems until recently. Getting a job has been relatively easy, the pay was way above what most people make, and that fed individualistic behavior. Now that jobs are becoming scarce, and there’s a huge pool of laid off workers, people are starting to get concerned.


wonder when software devs will get serious about unionizing
I’m going to predict that regime change will happen as a result of this… in the west.
yeah that’s the riff