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Obviously people like Scam Altman are just too principled to stoop to the level of these savage Chinese companies.

They raise a question that communists would have a different perspective. They don’t know what that perspective would be. Like if I said aliens would be different from us, I’m not saying I know how aliens think. So the second scene is the illustration of what it looks like in practice. An act of kindness is what shows that people can act in different ways. I’m flabbergasted how some people really need things chewed up and spoon fed to them.

It’s worth noting that the whole China is distilling our glorious models narrative is largely nonsense. First of all, everybody distills, so it’s not like it’s unique to Chinese companies. Second, most of actual research that’s published is now coming out of China.

TLDW: American companies spend insane amounts of money and have no path towards profitability, and Chinese companies are spending a tiny fraction of that to deliver a product that’s mostly as good. On top of that, countries and companies are uncomfortable relying on closed models. So, Chinese providers offering open models at far lower rates mean they’re quickly taking over the market. And it turns out that simply having the best model isn’t really the most important thing. If a cheaper model can do the work then there’s no point paying order of magnitude for a more capable one.

The person says they absolutely think a communist would absolutely have a different perspective based on the first panel. They don’t know what that perspective would be. I’m also not sure how there’s no cohesion between panels. First two panels are a discussion people are having, and second two panels are an event proving the point of the discussion. Seems like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing here.

So, let’s break the comic down. Two people are talking about whether a communist would have different perspective on relationships. Later on, one of the characters gets help without any expectation of compensation, and finds it fascinating. It was pretty easy for me to follow. 🤷

People are products of their material conditions, if you have a society built on communal principles rather than capitalist competition then people will necessarily have a different outlook on life.

I expect it’ll take Chinese companies like a year or so to ramp up capacity, and then prices will start dropping.

That’s not evidence of anything, it’s just a tautology stating that machine-id is indeed used, which has never been under any dispute throughout this discussion. What I provided was rationale for why machine-id is problematic, and why systemd makes the problem worse. You have not provided any rationale for why it’s necessary aside from stating a tautological fact here. Again, nothing new has been added to the discussion in the process, but you insist on continuing it for reasons unknown. I’ll just let you have the last word here since that’s what you seem to be after.

Have a good day.

Maybe go back and read through the thread because I very clearly and repeatedly explained myself. I’m not going to do it once again for you here. You’ve basically made this huge assumption that machine-id was somehow critical to adopt for which I’m not aware of any supporting evidence, nor have you bothered providing any rationale for. You just keep stating it as fact. Meanwhile, as I’ve explained, systemd makes the whole situation worse precisely by creating a monolithic structure which everything depends on, and which makes solving the problem more difficult now. I don’t think there’s any point continuing the discussion though because we just keep restating the same points here and I don’t think any further understanding will be gained by anyone from continuing to do that.

Also, given that electricity costs in China are like a third of what they are in the US, it’s fundamentally cheaper for Chinese companies to operate.

You have yet to explain what the net positive that machine-id brings to the table is. I’m eagerly waiting for you thesis.

lmao that’s amazing

What’s actually being said is that the west is hypocritical, preaching one thing and doing another. Also, your whole argument is demonstrably nonsense because during the Cold War the west was secure enough to not block any Soviet media. It’s not like Russia has a more powerful propaganda machine than USSR did. What changed is that now there is domestic discontent in the west due to collapsing living standards which is what’s making people open to alternative views. Banning outside media is just an attempt to sweep underlying material problems under the carpet.

as shocked as you are by this development

Just ran across somebody talking about it on a forum. To be clear, having a consistent id can be useful outside of tracking, which is probably why it got introduced, but clearly tracking potential wasn’t considered fully here.

yeah it’s pretty clever and I love the low tech approach

You could, but there was no machine-id on Linux originally and it was something that got added and arguably shouldn’t have been. Again, I’m really struggling to understand why you’re so invested in defending this decision. Like it’s obviously a bad decision, it’s not necessary, why is it so hard for you to just say that.

I believe liberewolf does hide your machine id