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1·3 hours agoI don’t think the oligarchs are suicidal.
The devices in that table are ancient. We just keep going in circles here. Huawei doesn’t even run Android nowadays. I’m starting to get the impression you’re not even reading the links you’re using here. The chart even says this clearly that devices they can brute force are up to 2021:
3·4 hours agoInstead, socdems gave us fascism and the world we have today.
Based on historical data points we clearly see that both Android and iOS devices were vulnerable. Your own links shows this clearly. There is no evidence to suggest that Chinese devices are more vulnerable.
There’s just real world evidence that the devices aren’t as secure as some alternatives.
No, there isn’t. You keep saying this, but you haven’t provided a single source showing that these devices are more vulnerable.
The latest link you provide once again shows that many Android devices are vulnerable. But cellebrite is just one rootkit, not the totality of vulnerabilities either. That’s the whole problem. You’re ignoring what hardware backdoors may be present in US supply chain, and what other rootkits might exist.
Given that the US is a known bad actor, it has to be assumed that these devices are not safe. That’s just the reality of the situation. Meanwhile, Chinese companies have every incentive to make their devices safe from western malware and have zero incentive to put in backdoors for US or Israel in them. That’s what makes these devices inherently safer. The incentives matter.
graphene is at the top, then stock pixel then literally everything else.
Again, this is a baseless claim that is not supported by the evidence you’ve provided. Unless you can show proof that Chinese current devices have vulnerabilities that are not present in current stock Android, then you need to retract your claim.
3·7 hours agoExactly, change starts at home as the saying goes. We gotta clean our house first and lead by example. It’s always easy to point fingers at others while ignoring what’s happening here.
Having a Yugoslavian passport clearly does not stand in your way of being an ignoramus. But sure enjoy spewing nonsense confidently like the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger effect that you are.
I’m well aware of the Tito-Stalin split and the unaligned. You do realize that neither Yugoslavia or USSR in the 80s remotely resembled what they were link in the 50s right?
The primary reason NATO invaded was to destroy a socialist state, and if you genuinely believe that NATO invaded to stop ethnic cleansing then you need to get your head checked.
Meanwhile, the fact that you don’t understand that NATO would’ve never dared to invade Yugoslavia while USSR was around clearly demonstrates that you have no clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate here and your woefully uninformed opinions can be safely ignored.
Bye.
Last I checked Yugoslavia was firmly socialist. And that was the primary reason NATO invaded it, something they would’ve never dared to do when USSR was around. If you don’t understand this basic fact, don’t know what else to tell you.
I’ve thought about this before. If Germany went communist then it’s almost certain that the rest of Europe would too. There wouldn’t have been a second world war, and the US would’ve remained an isolationist power. In fact, the US itself had a strong labour movement back in the 1930s, and it would’ve been significantly boosted by Europe being communist.
fuck these cults and assholes who promote them
The pattern is: android devices and old iphones and pixels that need to be updated are vulnerable no matter the country and alliances.
Ok, but what does this have to do with the discussion we’re having here. I never said anything to suggest using old phones and operating systems. I repeatedly said I’m talking about new devices here.
Again, while there could be an argument for a pixel with graphene, it happens to be what I’m currently using because I can’t get a Huawei device in Canada, there is zero evidence that stock pixel or iphone are preferable to LATEST Huawei or Xiaomi for people who have the choice.
Yes, we all know you’re an artless troll scrotty. You’re not very good at hiding it.
Ah yes, China not wanting Canada to interfere in their internal affairs is coercion now. It’s like saying it would be coercion if China started funding and arming a separatist movement in Quebec and Canada warned against that.
The yanks were never ok, but people here just chose to look the other way because the atrocities were committed against the global south. Now that Canada finds itself on the menu, people are all of a sudden discovering that we’re next to a fascist state.
China is demonstrably better than the US in every way imaginable scrotty.
Hard to think of a better reason for Canada to improve ties with China than fascists down south being upset about it.
I’m also very concerned about forced labor, except actual and well documented forced labour that’s actually happening in Canada today, weird how scrotty here isn’t concerned about that though…
- UN expert sounds alarm over ‘contemporary forms of slavery’ in Canada https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1140437
- Systemic racial discrimination via discriminatory funding causing “Millennium Scoop” class action certified; long-term reform negotiations ongoing. https://decisions.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/chrt-tcdp/decisions/en/item/521231/index.do?iframe=true
- Crisis fueled by human trafficking linked to resource extraction “man camps”; systemic inaction continues. https://afn.ca/all-news/press-releases/assembly-of-first-nations-afn-releases-2025-progress-report-on-missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-and-girls-mmiwg-calls-for-justice-highlighting-human-trafficking-crisis/#to-top
- Failure to legislate a human right to safe water and diversion of settlement funds from critical services. https://siksikanation.com/carney-government-reaches-new-low-on-first-nation-safe-drinking-water/
- Slavery charges against Canadian mining company settled on the sly https://theconversation.com/slavery-charges-against-canadian-mining-company-settled-on-the-sly-148605
a lost redditor appears
It’s really tough when I keep pointing out that your examples are not recent, and you continue to double down. Huawei p40 came out 2020 which is over half a decade ago. I repeatedly pointd out that you do not have any recent examples. Yet, you just keep providing more old models. I really don’t know what else to say here.
This is not a chip either, it’s a phone that isn’t in production anymore. It was succeeded by p50 which was then succeeded by Pura 90. So, if your best example, is a device that’s no longer in production, then you clearly need to retract your claim.
As you must obviously know, harmonyos and hyper have also been evolving since those devices were released just like android and ios have.
To sum up. You’ve provided zero evidence that any phones from Huawei or Xiaomi that are actually in production have vulnerabilities. And your argument that the that older devices have notes on them does not mean newer devices are not supported equally applies to iphone and pixel.
You have failed to provide any evidence to support your assertions, yet you just won’t retract them. This is frankly bizarre.