only 12,655 russians applied for asylum in 2025, out of 146 million russians
Yes because the average russian is ultimately fine with the Ukrainian War until it directly affects them at which point it is usually too late for them, thus the average russian is complicit in the Ukrainian War. You have proved my point over and over again.
yes, just walk in eu through the open border and say “asylum please”.
totally not at all the case that there’s constant news on european media that asylums are being denied left and right even for people that have been persecuted for their political opinions in russia. yes yes
Shame on you for strawmanning me by conflating a critique of russia with a defense of Europe’s immigration policies.
Most people applying for asylum in Europe do not come from countries that have been rolling columns of tanks into a democratic nation on the cultural verge of Europe (literally, Ukraine desires to join the EU), to the point that many countries of Europe have provided large quantities of weapons and supplies to help resist the constant stream of russian tanks and infantry physically invading Ukraine and attempting to take territory.
Most people applying for asylum in Europe do not come from countries that have been rolling columns of tanks …
So… what exactly is the supposed reason not to grant asylum to russian deserters, if they explicitly need to flee because they don’t want to partake in the war?
Conscription is not considered grounds for granting asylum, not from any country. Israelis can’t request asylum because they would be conscripted into the IDF either. Conscription is just the law of the land that applies to everyone in it, it doesn’t target people specifically, regardless of any protected class like race, sexuality or political opinions.
Asylum would require something like political persecution, e.g. standing up to Putin and becoming a target of the FSB; that would be grounds for asylum.
The quote I gave of your comment says otherwise. Why should it be a point in an argument that Russia is invading a country when it comes to granting asylums?
Yes because the average russian is ultimately fine with the Ukrainian War until it directly affects them at which point it is usually too late for them, thus the average russian is complicit in the Ukrainian War. You have proved my point over and over again.
yes, just walk in eu through the open border and say “asylum please”.
totally not at all the case that there’s constant news on european media that asylums are being denied left and right even for people that have been persecuted for their political opinions in russia. yes yes
Shame on you for strawmanning me by conflating a critique of russia with a defense of Europe’s immigration policies.
Most people applying for asylum in Europe do not come from countries that have been rolling columns of tanks into a democratic nation on the cultural verge of Europe (literally, Ukraine desires to join the EU), to the point that many countries of Europe have provided large quantities of weapons and supplies to help resist the constant stream of russian tanks and infantry physically invading Ukraine and attempting to take territory.
So… what exactly is the supposed reason not to grant asylum to russian deserters, if they explicitly need to flee because they don’t want to partake in the war?
Conscription is not considered grounds for granting asylum, not from any country. Israelis can’t request asylum because they would be conscripted into the IDF either. Conscription is just the law of the land that applies to everyone in it, it doesn’t target people specifically, regardless of any protected class like race, sexuality or political opinions.
Asylum would require something like political persecution, e.g. standing up to Putin and becoming a target of the FSB; that would be grounds for asylum.
Considering how many people in Russia who opposed the war ended up in prison: it’s probably really easy to be politically persecuted in Russia.
And for that reason, you can request asylum. But not for being conscripted.
You should be able to request asylum for deserting.
Where did I base my argument on defending the immigration, human rights, asylum laws and systems of the EU?
Stop putting words in my mouth.
You insinuate that Russians don’t deserve asylum.
Probably because you’re a racist against Russians.
I categorically insinuated no such thing.
The quote I gave of your comment says otherwise. Why should it be a point in an argument that Russia is invading a country when it comes to granting asylums?