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    18 hours ago

    He could donate money for the campaigns of good government officials.

    Like Harvey Dent, who became Two-Face?

    He could’ve opened a string a mental health facilities because Gotham has a major mental health problem.

    Harley Quinn’s origin story is that she was Joker’s psychiatrist.

    IMO: In the real world Joker and the rest of most heroes rogues galleries would have 100% been either sentenced to death (Which while it doesn’t currently exist in Gotham which is in New Jersey, would likely be put into effect considering waves hands broadly at the various levels of shit that has gone down in Gotham over the years.) or murdered by a cop who said they “lunged for his gun”. Superman would be a transitional energy source, we’d be living in luxury gay space communism owing to the innumerable genius level intellects (Atom, Mr. Terrific, Brainiac 5, Blue Beetle, the list goes on.) fixing basically every issue, which makes for a great reality but a really boring comic book universe.

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      I’m not suggesting an idea for a better comic book lol I’m just saying it’s not wrong to point out being Batman isn’t the way to fix issues it’s an ego thing. Just like iron man.

      Didn’t Harvey dent become two face because of Batman? Atleast in the movie it looks like Harvey would’ve faired a lot better without Batman.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m working under the assumption that you haven’t read a lot of the comics but if you have, forgive me.

        You gotta understand how deeply fucked Gotham is. Like, evil bat god sealed under the city, portal to hell in the asylum, crazy juice from the Lazarus Pit leaking into the water supply which has probably already got chemicals in it that are fucking folks up mentally (along with likely lead pipes but I’m just guessing.), the Illuminati basically running the city, corrupt cops all over, mafia, monsters, people who are basically monsters, there was even a whole plot line where it got kicked out the United States. If any city in real life had that many problems we’d probably level the fucker and start over.

        You can’t “pay your taxes” out of something like the Illuminati trying to use zombies to assassinate the police chief.

        Didn’t Harvey dent become two face because of Batman? Atleast in the movie it looks like Harvey would’ve faired a lot better without Batman.

        In the comics he got hit in the face with acid by a crime boss, iirc during a trial.

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          I never read any of the comics. Saw a few of the movies.

          A lot of those problems Bruce could focus more on better by paying qualified people.

          The chemicals and bad pipes could be solved with money.

          Illuminati? Isn’t he like the richest person in town? He could use his wealth and power against that as well.

          They should probably rebuild the asylum people keep escaping from somewhere that isn’t above a portal to hell. Maybe just cement over the portal.

          As for the cursed city and bat god: this is a world where magic exsists, and money exists. He could hire better magic to solve the problem.

          Monsters in the streets are a police and military problem. The police may be corrupt but that’s happened a lot in history and what we do is hire better police.

          But lets look at Batman. Batman isn’t solving the long term problems like portals to hell and bat gods. The criminals he captures keep getting away, he hasn’t solved the corruption or crime or monsters. Batmaning isn’t working. He should focus on using his wealth to change things and drop the whole Batman thing.

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            Illuminati? Isn’t he like the richest person in town? He could use his wealth and power against that as well.

            No one got arrested for the Panama Papers or Epstein Island so I think you’re overestimating what Bruce could do there.

            They should probably rebuild the asylum people keep escaping from somewhere that isn’t above a portal to hell. Maybe just cement over the portal.

            Literally every jail in comics is porous. They had a supermax in another dimension people were getting out of.

            As for the cursed city and bat god: this is a world where magic exsists, and money exists. He could hire better magic to solve the problem.

            “Hey Thor here’s 20 bucks go beat up Satan”. C’mon.

            Monsters in the streets are a police and military problem. The police may be corrupt but that’s happened a lot in history and what we do is hire better police.

            Who then get frozen solid, eaten by plants, or murdered in a myriad other ways. At some point any cop is going to reasonably say “Nah this shit above my pay grade.” no matter what that paygrade is.

            Batmaning isn’t working…

            May as well point out that Tom is a terrible cat because he never catches Jerry and in reality they would have called a professional by now. Well obviously in real life but then again in real life Tom would have died after being crushed by a anvil the first time so maybe suspend your disbelief a bit, and even beyond that whats the next cartoon look like after Jerry dies in a fumigation? Tom takes a nap?

            We can’t apply reality to an ongoing entertainment medium in one way and ignore it in another. It’s not a “Why didn’t they ride a eagle to Mordor” situation because Lord of the Rings had a ending, and Batman etc. don’t and won’t so long as they keep making money.

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              “We cant apply reality in one way and ignore it in another”

              Why not? You are. You can accept the city being cursed but the idea of bringing in magic to cure it is impossible?

              And why can’t they move the asylum away from the portal to hell again? Fill that portal with concrete.

              “No one got arrested for the Panama papers”

              That wasn’t the illuminati. The real illuminati got killed, night Templar where burned, Al Capone arrested. People can topple corruption. We do it a lot actually. Epstein was arrested and is now dead.

              As for the police giving up why not hire some magic police or mutant police. The money spent on Batman could pay for it.

              Tom from tom in Jerry was a terrible cat, that’s kind of the whole joke is he’s bad at hunting mice. Again I’m not saying what is best for an entertaining comic. I’m saying in Batman’s world Batman should spend his money fixing things instead of being Batman, which clearly isn’t working. Yes tom should give up on chasing Jerry as well.

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                Why not? You are. You can accept the city being cursed but the idea of bringing in magic to cure it is impossible?

                The option you suggested was Bruce using riches to get otherworldly beings to fight otherworldly beings. Offering Thor 20 bucks (or 20 million even) to fight Satan is laughable because tf is Thor gonna do with 20 bucks?

                And why can’t they move the asylum away from the portal to hell again? Fill that portal with concrete.

                Because inevitably they’ll land on a Indian burial ground or chemical dump or NIMBY’s will oppose it, depending on how real we get.

                Epstein was arrested and is now dead

                And how many people in the files are? One of the more notable ones is the president now.

                As for the police giving up why not hire some magic police or mutant police

                Why be a magic cop for x dollars a year when they can be a magic criminal for 10x that? Also the legal wrangling for the property damage and civilian casualties from thrown cars and the like would be insane. Those cops would spend more time in courtrooms then on the street. May as well just pay every citizen to leave town, it’d probably be cheaper.

                I’m saying in Batman’s world Batman should spend his money fixing things instead of being Batman, which clearly isn’t working.

                Really feels like you’re being intentionally obtuse here.

                By your metric every superhero and probably every comic book government agency should give up. Lex Luthor keeps doing Lex Luthor shit so Superman should just focus on carrying oil tankers past the Straight of Hormuz to keep gas prices low. Hulks villains keep coming back he should just make coal into diamonds for industry. All these super geniuses should cure cancer and give us unlimited clean energy instead of fighting Thanos. The list goes on.

                We can’t call out Batman in comics without calling out every comic character who has some ability that would benefit the world that they instead use to punch baddies in the face. Batman just has one we can contextualize in our world more readily so smug dorks get all “hurr pay your taxes”