We have never gotten rights or rights back from voting for them. A lot of people died for our rights and I’m not talking about soldiers. Miners, farm workers, industrial workers, healthcare, etc. It required many deaths for change to be made and it was force. Remember Stone Wall was a riot!
Most rights we got were from voting it is untrue to say we got them through violence. I don’t think it is right to tell people to go die for change when non-violent options lead to solutions.
Disability Act, Women’s right to vote, removal of the poor tax on voting, Indian Citizenship Act.
The Battle of Blair mountain for instance caused an immediate backlash that historians actually believe delayed worker’s rights. Stonewall happened decades before any policy change. Making your voice heard and educating people to join up in collective action is what makes change, violence either causes backlash or completely collapses a government. The French Revolution for instance ended in military dictatorship. Violence will happen but it is absolutely not true to say it causes change, it often doesn’t.
And then there are the dozens of elections that resulted in positive policy change that required no violence, dozens of non-violent movements that did cause sweeping changes directly.
If voting didn’t matter, they would not put so much effort and money into denying people’s vote.
The Battle of Blair mountain caused a steep drop in labor unions, nearly bankrupted the UMWA and these conversations didn’t continue until like almost a decade later.
The French Revolution brought a reign of terror which birthed into an ineffective and corrupt government that then fell to Napleon, who you can talk about in length but he banned worker unions and prioritized employers over employees. History likes to treat him as if he was some kind of regular man’s hero but he wasn’t, he absolutely always sided with power and money.
We have never gotten rights or rights back from voting for them. A lot of people died for our rights and I’m not talking about soldiers. Miners, farm workers, industrial workers, healthcare, etc. It required many deaths for change to be made and it was force. Remember Stone Wall was a riot!
Most rights we got were from voting it is untrue to say we got them through violence. I don’t think it is right to tell people to go die for change when non-violent options lead to solutions.
Disability Act, Women’s right to vote, removal of the poor tax on voting, Indian Citizenship Act.
The Battle of Blair mountain for instance caused an immediate backlash that historians actually believe delayed worker’s rights. Stonewall happened decades before any policy change. Making your voice heard and educating people to join up in collective action is what makes change, violence either causes backlash or completely collapses a government. The French Revolution for instance ended in military dictatorship. Violence will happen but it is absolutely not true to say it causes change, it often doesn’t.
And then there are the dozens of elections that resulted in positive policy change that required no violence, dozens of non-violent movements that did cause sweeping changes directly.
If voting didn’t matter, they would not put so much effort and money into denying people’s vote.
Historically and politically illiterate, dead wrong, embarassing
https://adata.org/learn-about-ada/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_States
The Battle of Blair mountain caused a steep drop in labor unions, nearly bankrupted the UMWA and these conversations didn’t continue until like almost a decade later.
The French Revolution brought a reign of terror which birthed into an ineffective and corrupt government that then fell to Napleon, who you can talk about in length but he banned worker unions and prioritized employers over employees. History likes to treat him as if he was some kind of regular man’s hero but he wasn’t, he absolutely always sided with power and money.
What are you talking about?
None of the links you posted do anything to support your moronic claims. Try again dumbass.
You got a source for that bud?
Too many to count, every single non-fiction history of every single revolution that has ever happened
You can’t be serious
You can’t read
Oh-- oh no! The letters, they’re losing all meaning! I can’t read your comments anymore!
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Hooray!
(Cue snarky deadpan reply treating that statement seriously and thinking it’s a clever response in 5… 4… 3…)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree
Are you lost? None of these things have anything to do with the ineffectiveness of voting or the success of violent revolution.