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    In my opinion it was destroyed by government.

    Please hear me out:

    Think about it: all public transportation was privatized. Yet road infrastructure was implemented, funded, planned by the government (local,state and federal). The cars themselves were private but it was the government that decided to build the road and highway system.

    The government then subsidize the fuel industry to benefit the car industry so that their road investment would be put in good use. The future for Americans at this time was the automobile since the government was investing so much money into it.

    At the same time the private sector public transportation were hemorrhaging riders and the companies had no investment opportunities. The government looked at their service and thought it was old fashioned and decided they were better of going bankrupt.

    If it wasn’t for citizens rising up to rescue the remnants of these public transportation companies by making them public sector they would all be extinct. The governments continued to not invest into these entities until the 70s and even then it was sporadic and lackluster. The same government also had to be stopped by citizens in building highways in neighborhoods. So many neighborhoods were destroyed for these highways and only a few were prevented from getting built, all because people rose up!

    Finally we go to present day. Government continues to provide lackluster service and we see poor investment in our public transportation. Governments continue to mainly focus on roads and car centric development.

    I challenge people to look at Europe and their relative success in nationalizing rail tracks but privatizing rail service. It’s not perfect but it’s possible!

    So this is my view on why government is to blame for where we are in our car centric hellscape, USA

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          24 days ago

          Everybody knows that private-public partnerships start because the private sector wants to pocket public funds. Public transit is probably the clearest example of how private interests will intentionally ruin public projects and then blame the government for it. Elon Musk is famous for it, with his Boring Company basically stealing money set aside for public transit to make a shitty fire hazard tunnel in Las Vegas. Any time a public transit project gets announced in California, Elon Musk derails all conversation by insisting one of his whack-ass tunnels could do the job.

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            24 days ago

            I understand the sentiment but I think you have it misconstrued… The reason private-public partnerships start is because politicians (government) want to pocket the extra cash. Nobody is forcing these politicians to agree to these deals. These politicians are just a reflection of the idiots that Americans are:

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              That is a problem with capitalism, not governance. Capitalism is the system that sets incentives for corruption here. The private sector is inherently going to try and do everything it can to maximize profits, including subverting governments that try to regulate them.

              For society to work properly, limitations and regulations need to be forced onto corporations and the only effective way to do that is through governance.

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                24 days ago

                Capitalism? So communism has no corruption? That’s a fucking big lie. The problem is the stupid American people.

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                  If we are talking about the USA, then we should remain focused on the economic system the USA uses, which is capitalism. The USA doesn’t do communisim, so it’s silly to bring up communism in this discussion.

                  Captialism is the reason why the private sector pushes for deregulation as those limitations cost money to uphold. This is an obstacle to their goal of acquiring more capital, so the private sector has a vested interest in sabotaging the public sector. This invloves bribing politicians to intentionally ruin public services to serve as an example as to why the government should be reduced and not responsible for public services. The Post Office is a great example of the private sector sabotaging a previously perfectly functional public service.

                  You argued that government is responsible for the degradation of public services with your reasoning being, “Americans are stupid”. I blame the private sector with my reasoning being, “they want money”. Your analysis seems shallow and shaky.

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                    24 days ago

                    My argument is the last time USA had good public services was when the government didn’t meddle with capitalism. The USA government seldom was able to deliver good public service. The Post Office itself has not provided a good enough service, which is why we have UPS, FedEx, etc

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                    24 days ago

                    Lol the only braindead are the ones that accuse capitalism of being corrupting when it is their citizens that are the problem.