If you live in a first world country, living vegan is honestly not a problem at all. And of course I’m not counting the US here. These guys are just poor people that are challanged enough already.
I think I would have a tough time with going full vegan. Vegetarian sounds like I could do it easily. I enjoy a lot of vegetarian dishes regularily and will often prefer vegetarian options over meat based dishes.
Can always start there then keep going. I will say a lot of people who ultimately go vegan also thought they never could do it. There’s some communities on lemmy with some good recipes if you want inspiration
I mean, your country can be rich but it does not mean it’s easy being vegan and even if its, often there is still an economic impact on going vegan that poorer people cannot afford
In a just world it is, but it kinda depends. A lot of countries subsidise dairy products into the ground for example, which can make it cheaper to be vegan except for dairy. This is of course still better than not vegan at all
Even with subsidies, it’s still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It’s only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don’t yet have the same economies of scale
It found that in high-income countries:
• Vegan diets were the most affordable and reduced food costs by up to one third.
• Vegetarian diets were a close second.
• Flexitarian diets with low amounts of meat and dairy reduced costs by 14%.
• By contrast, pescatarian diets increased costs by up to 2%.
Based on primary data (n = 1040) collected through an online survey, representative of the Portuguese population, through logistic regressions, it was possible to conclude that plant-based consumers, particularly vegan, are associated with lower food expenditures compared to omnivorous consumers. In fact, plant-based consumers are shown to spend less than all other consumers assessed
Even with subsidies, it’s still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It’s only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don’t yet have the same economies of scale
Seems like you are from Italy based on your instance? Studies have found overall costs lower in Italy for plant-based diets
Yeah in Italy overall the price of meat is higher than plants but where i live, if i compare the quantity of meat and plants needed for a full meal, they are almost at the same prices especially where i live since we have plenty of meat to export anyway, the point was not about me but about others, i could prolly be vegetarian with little problems (not vegan, i could not) but I am not very healty so i’d rather not gamble with what i eat too
The lowest income groups are actually the most likely to be vegan and eat the least meat, dairy, etc. around the world. The lowest income countries eat the least animal products
If you live in a first world country, living vegan is honestly not a problem at all. And of course I’m not counting the US here. These guys are just poor people that are challanged enough already.
It’s actually cheaper in the US, to note. The lowest income groups in the US are the one exactly the most likely to be vegan or plant-based
Of all the places in the world I’ve been, eating vegan in the US was the easiest by far.
Edit: except India. I should have specified western world.
Considering German cuisine, I find it very easy to do at the least in most big cities.
I think I would have a tough time with going full vegan. Vegetarian sounds like I could do it easily. I enjoy a lot of vegetarian dishes regularily and will often prefer vegetarian options over meat based dishes.
Can always start there then keep going. I will say a lot of people who ultimately go vegan also thought they never could do it. There’s some communities on lemmy with some good recipes if you want inspiration
!veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works
!veganhomecooks@lemmy.world
Thanks! I appreciate the links, and I will definitely refer to some of those recepies
So do vegan plus. Vegan plus bacon. Vegan plus cheese.
Don’t let perfect become the enemy of progress.
My progress is to introduce more vegan meals, not to cut out meat fully. Lacto-ovo flexi pescatarian, or something like that.
I mean, your country can be rich but it does not mean it’s easy being vegan and even if its, often there is still an economic impact on going vegan that poorer people cannot afford
Being vegan is much cheaper
In a just world it is, but it kinda depends. A lot of countries subsidise dairy products into the ground for example, which can make it cheaper to be vegan except for dairy. This is of course still better than not vegan at all
Even with subsidies, it’s still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It’s only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don’t yet have the same economies of scale
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921800915301488?via=ihub (looking at the US)
https://agrifoodecon.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40100-022-00224-9
In your country.
Even with subsidies, it’s still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It’s only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don’t yet have the same economies of scale
Seems like you are from Italy based on your instance? Studies have found overall costs lower in Italy for plant-based diets
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study
Yeah in Italy overall the price of meat is higher than plants but where i live, if i compare the quantity of meat and plants needed for a full meal, they are almost at the same prices especially where i live since we have plenty of meat to export anyway, the point was not about me but about others, i could prolly be vegetarian with little problems (not vegan, i could not) but I am not very healty so i’d rather not gamble with what i eat too
The lowest income groups are actually the most likely to be vegan and eat the least meat, dairy, etc. around the world. The lowest income countries eat the least animal products
That’s true but not in all places sadly