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  • dan00@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Nooooo guys!!! Biden genocide was better than Trump genocide! 😡😡 You don’t understand, he said he was trying not bomb children!!! 😢

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      I mean it is though, at least from a numbers perspective.

      Neither should happen but since i don’t get that choice, I choose the option that saves millions of lives.

      Not to mention the US is now party to the Ukraine genocide too.

      not to mention the real threat to foreign born citizens and LGBTQ people in the United States itself.

      So yes Biden is better even if we are dealing with shades of black

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        You did not have to preface it with pretending to save anyone. You simply care only about yourself and you do not care about anyone else.

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        1 month ago

        This is also false. Biden drastically upped the military aid to Israel after Trump left office.

        The US democrats are a vicious, genocidal party.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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            1 month ago

            You had a zero percent chance of influencing the Democrats, as evidenced by over a year of complete failure to do so. So no, you didn’t have a better chance to influence them

            • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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              What serious organization for progressives is there?

              If you don’t have an answer for this you are just trolling and not serious about any matter.

              • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

                But that makes sense, given that you admitted to being a troll.

                • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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                  You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

                  I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there. Fair enough, but I have asked you what your ideas are, and all you can say is to twiddle your thumbs.

                  Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

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                    I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there

                    Oh? What is this “serious organization for progressives”?

                    Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

                    LOL! You were talking about the Democrats as a “serious organization for progressives”! BAHAHAHA. OK. Then I’ll propose the The Alliance of Magicians - there are more serious answer than yours after all.

                    Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item.

                    Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you’re not lying to yourself that you’re actually doing anything.

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        Okay, but then if we point our finger at your face and call you a genocide supporter, you shut up and take it right?! Right?

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          no i wouldn’t because i don’t support it and your inability to see shades of gray will paint darker and darker paths

      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Except now Trump is starting to play hardball with Netanyahu, and is distinctly unhappy with the the U.S. taking so much flak while being treated as a money fountain.

        There is a much more real world where Trump gets sick of Bibi and pulls his support than Harris pulling support from Israel. A fully isolationist U.S. is better for Palestine.

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      I know I’ll get downvoted for this, and to be clear, all of our governments supporting this genocide are absolute bullshit and capitalism is bullshit.

      However, at least you had one choice that wasn’t actively also trying to destroy your own country and take away the rights of people in your own country to such an extent that they now can’t even worry about what’s happening elsewhere because they’re too worried trying to find healthcare and not get deported, killed, or permanently detained.

      If you were going to not vote in order to take down the system, then show up and take down the god damn fucking system.

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        However, at least you had one choice that wasn’t actively also trying to destroy your own country

        When a normal, moral person discover that a country is hellbent on genocide, they would think that destroying that country is a good thing.

        take away the rights of people in your own country

        The genocide in the colonies must continue for the benefit of the people in the capital.

        they now can’t even worry about what’s happening elsewhere

        So you were worrying before? Certainly didn’t accomplish anything.

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          1 month ago

          The valid take of “yes the people I support are committing the worst acts imaginable to mankind, but I stand to personally benefit, so it’s actually good to support them.”

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            You made me think I supported someone who was against Palestine, he literally does not say that, you only infer that just because he isn’t fully anti-democrat and is using the ‘lesser evil’ arguement

            Oh the thinks Palestine/Hamas will destroy Israel nevermind

            • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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              Where the fuck did I say Palestine would destroy Israel?

              I am 100% pro-Palestine, I just genuinely do not understand how voting someone in who has exponentially sped up the genocide and sped up the suffering of brown, queer people and women, in his own country is somehow the more moral choice in all of this. It doesn’t make any fucking sense to me.