• 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I think what pisses me off most about the AMERICA BAD crowd is that some of us here have been fighting this for literal decades, and now these people have decided to jump on the bandwagon after all this time and the only thing they have to offer is criticism that we haven’t been able to fix the problem.

    Yeah, thanks. Appreciate that. ABout time you woke up to the problem we’ve been having all this time, now please fuck off if all you want to do is say it’s my fault.

    This isn’t the topic that sparked the above - my reaction to this topic is NO FUCKING SHIT we don’t just look like that, we ARE that with the fascists in control. The only thing Trump has really done is to cause the people not really paying any fucking attention to get a clue. CONGRATS ON THE CLUE.

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      19 days ago

      I’ve been fighting this corpo-fascist bullshit my whole life but I’m one person in a sea of morons who just don’t want to talk politics. Ever. Even now with all this obvious nazi shit going on if you start talking politics americans just roll their eyes and ignore you. I’m sorry but this country is kinda fucked idk what else to do.

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      19 days ago

      Now you know how people outside the US feel

      The cracks have been a lot more apparent from outside the snow globe for a lot longer than you think.

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          19 days ago

          I do get your point. I was trying to be pithy.

          When a system is designed from inception to be unfair (what an entirely inadequate word) there’s no fixing it without excising it entirely.

          I don’t see that happening within my life time or my great grand children’s.

          • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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            19 days ago

            Well, if you were trying to be pithy, you should have used citrus, not apples, so there, neener :)

            I share your lack of hope on things getting much better. I still plan to vote, I still plan to argue online and convince people that we need to deal with our oligarchs as I believe the greatest root of the problem is wealth inequality and that falls at the feet of the oligarchs. Everything else follows from that.

              • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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                19 days ago

                hah, I didn’t realize it was an intentional pun - I was proud of myself for leaping on it, so now I have to apologize for missing yours AND thinking I was so smart. lol.

                I am now pleased with you, though. Better late than never :)

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      19 days ago

      I love the Canadians and Europeans who woke up to it when Trump started disrespecting Canada/Europe. The US was tolerable and respectable until recently, but now we’ve crossed a line! Now they demand that Americans drive our trucks with our guns to the capital and fix things! After all, they would! lol

      (I know that’s far from all of them and if you take exception to this I’m probably not talking about you, and otherwise it’s better late than never of course, but still. It’s human nature I suppose to be ignorant about something until you have a material reason not to be, and I should try not to pretend to be superior.)

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        19 days ago

        That’s what gets me about it. We keep hearing news about fascism rising in various places - Germany and France in the news recently - and you don’t hear that same “Well, go take care of it!” that popped up recently against the US.

        It’s also hard to take because we HAVE been trying to deal with it for quite a while. heh.

        I can understand some negative US sentiment being expressed. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that some folks tried to bitch at us in the past and were downvoted by others defending us. Yeah, well, okay, those people probably are understandably a little bitter. Just like I’m bitter about these things. heh.

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      19 days ago

      Oh, we have a fucking clue.

      The bandwagon of the trail of tears? The bandwagon of slavery? The bandwagon of lynchings? The bandwagon of empowering military dictatorships across Latin America? The bandwagon of Vietnam? The bandwagon of the war on terror? The bandwagon of drone bombing weddings?

      Yeah, that horrendous anti-America crowd, the whiny bastards. Just piling on to make the poor ‘Americans’ feel bad. Boo hoo.

      I get it, not all people in the country that stole America’s name are bad, but playing the victim here is a bit rich. Your country has brought indescribable pain to millions of people…for centuries. Many people on Lemmy own that instead of going all “woe me.”

      That country needs to dissolve, and it can’t happen fast enough. China too, lest I be called a tankie.

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      19 days ago

      I’ve been anti American since the bush times, so don’t you come with this. Also, I’m of course gonna criticise you, the same as I criticise Russia.

      I understand you are on a dire position but it is entirely your responsibility as a country and not ours as a different country. You are the ones that “spread democracy”, we don’t do that in Europe anymore (thankfully, we are ashamed of our past for what is worth).

      So yeah, I will not “fuck off” or “shut up”, not about your shitty country and not about Russia either. WTF does that mean? I don’t stop criticising my country and is way ahead.