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    As a non-American, I’ve seen GOP used occasionally and never really checked what it meant (I assumed it was a US government acronym within the Republican party for something). I didn’t realise it was another name for the Republicans, and worse still that it stood for ‘Grand Old Party’. Wtf kinda dumb name is that

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      The name is entirely ironic for several reasons. 1) The democratic party is older than the republican party by 26 years. 2).They have been nicknamed the Grand Old Party since the 1870s despite being founded in 1854. 3) The name was granted specifically as praise to the party for leading the Union to victory against the Confederacy in the Civil War, while many GOP members and supports proudly fly the confederate flag nowadays. 4) When they were given that name, they were the progressive party (relatively speaking) fighting for federal economic protectionism and civil rights, while the democrats were the ones were fighting for states rights and free markets. Yet they pretend to identify with “The Party of Lincoln” and cling to the “GOP” moniker to maintain the illusion of any real connection there.

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        That’s actually really interesting, thanks! Yeah it sounds about right that they’d cherry pick the good bits and rewrite history to suit them…

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        The good ole southern strategy, basically some politicians decided to appeal to racist cockwhombles in the south to get votes, which flooded the GOP with former southern democrats, which made the original GOP politicians to switch parties.

        Basically the parties did one giant flip and ended up in the same place with different names.

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        huh, i would argue the democrats were pursuing a different type of federal economic protectionism that “coincidentally” lined up with making slavery legal in all 34 states.

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          Free Enslaved Markets

          FR, though. We are talking Post-War here. But while enslavement was illegal, they still had the next closest thing for a long time… indentureship through share cropping (debt bondage), forced child “apprenticeship” for orphans, vagrants, and kids they just stole from their parents, and leasing prisoners convicted of such crimes as unemployment, loitering, and changing employers.

          Generations after the Civil War, people. 190,000 black children were re-homed and force to work in agriculture or domestic jobs until adulthood. Convict Leasing didn’t end in Alabama intol 1928. Debt bondage wasn’t outlawed federally until 1966 over 100 years later. And only mostly because it had already faded with the mechanization of the Ag industry in the decade or two prior. That is well into the Baby Boomer era. This is still relatively recent history.