Pretty sure only pixels are, but Motorola was working on one. It’s fucking stupid that the only phone they support is manufactured by the company that is causing most of the problem. Their phone sucks too.
Next flagship Motorola will have official GrapheneOS support. It will be very expensive. After that, hopefully more mid-level Motorola phones will be supported too.
OR - they could dumb down grapheneOS so that it can run on a lot of other phones ?? ? maybe? yes? I get the desire to be able to encrypt the entire drive - that IS important, but I think its more important to get the functionality of graphene provides to more people. A non-google based phone is pointless on only google based hardware.
The point of GOS isn’t to “encrypt the entire drive” though, the whole point is a secure, private and stable platform that actually works. Their team chose Pixel phones because the hardware makes it possible to make it more secure, as in it has specific things in it that many other phones don’t have.
Adding more supported phones would be great, but it would mean having to support that many more configurations and likely sacrificing the main features and stability as it is not a huge team and afaik they’re all volunteers.
The whole point is security and privacy, adding whatever phone you have in your pocket for support is a) not realistically possible for them or b) would compromise the entire project due to either how many resources they have or due to the actual hardware of that particular phone.
It’s not stupid, it’s a pretty clever group of people working on GOS. It’s not perfect but that’s what it is right now, I get that Google is an evil company but you can always buy second hand and at the end of the day there’s like maybe one less evil phone company among the many so it’s a problem with just about every phone you’re gonna buy.
I would love to see GrapheneOS on Fairphone, but, you know, asking them to weaken security is a bit like asking Stallman to support proprietary software. Some people don’t compromise on their core mission. Hopefully more phones will start having secure hardware in the future. I think a lot of people value security, sustainability, and degoogling. Right now there’s no hardware where you can get all three.
For degoogling it would be amazing, and postmarket/nura has been doing a lot of progress lately. As long as google is the steward of aosp and firmware is closed, all aosp based projects are kind of relying on google. For security pure linux has a long way to catch up though. And battery life. And ability to be used as a daily main device.
I got a cheap used Pixel at the tail end of support, it’ll last a few more years. After that I hope there will be more Motorola phones than the currently planned.
Use graphene OS or deal with the “advanced flow” process once
I understand but the problem is my phone in not supported sadly
Pretty sure only pixels are, but Motorola was working on one. It’s fucking stupid that the only phone they support is manufactured by the company that is causing most of the problem. Their phone sucks too.
I agree I hope something changes in the future
Next flagship Motorola will have official GrapheneOS support. It will be very expensive. After that, hopefully more mid-level Motorola phones will be supported too.
OR - they could dumb down grapheneOS so that it can run on a lot of other phones ?? ? maybe? yes? I get the desire to be able to encrypt the entire drive - that IS important, but I think its more important to get the functionality of graphene provides to more people. A non-google based phone is pointless on only google based hardware.
The point of GOS isn’t to “encrypt the entire drive” though, the whole point is a secure, private and stable platform that actually works. Their team chose Pixel phones because the hardware makes it possible to make it more secure, as in it has specific things in it that many other phones don’t have.
Adding more supported phones would be great, but it would mean having to support that many more configurations and likely sacrificing the main features and stability as it is not a huge team and afaik they’re all volunteers.
The whole point is security and privacy, adding whatever phone you have in your pocket for support is a) not realistically possible for them or b) would compromise the entire project due to either how many resources they have or due to the actual hardware of that particular phone.
It’s not stupid, it’s a pretty clever group of people working on GOS. It’s not perfect but that’s what it is right now, I get that Google is an evil company but you can always buy second hand and at the end of the day there’s like maybe one less evil phone company among the many so it’s a problem with just about every phone you’re gonna buy.
I would love to see GrapheneOS on Fairphone, but, you know, asking them to weaken security is a bit like asking Stallman to support proprietary software. Some people don’t compromise on their core mission. Hopefully more phones will start having secure hardware in the future. I think a lot of people value security, sustainability, and degoogling. Right now there’s no hardware where you can get all three.
I’m more excited for the Linux support efforts on Fairphone tbh, not a fan of Android
For degoogling it would be amazing, and postmarket/nura has been doing a lot of progress lately. As long as google is the steward of aosp and firmware is closed, all aosp based projects are kind of relying on google. For security pure linux has a long way to catch up though. And battery life. And ability to be used as a daily main device.
The flagship Motorola also sucks, missing a bunch of features that even my $150 Samsung J3 had
The signature 27? Do you mean like headphone jack etc?
SD slot, removable battery, headphone jack (which also comes with an FM radio)
I got a cheap used Pixel at the tail end of support, it’ll last a few more years. After that I hope there will be more Motorola phones than the currently planned.
That’s not really a hardware solution