• Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.worldOP
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    The only person whose words are making them look dumb here is you. I can’t believe you would start throwing out random racist stereotypes completely unrelated. You sound like a mouthpiece for Trump right now. Shameful display, I hope one day you outgrow these nasty ideas you have about people.

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      Trump, famous for calling out anti-Chinese racism.

      I grew up in the South, and you sound just like every “polite” racist I ever met. Every single racist joke I ever heard, when someone gets called on it, they respond exactly like you.

      According to your absurd, twisted logic, the fact that there’s a stereotype of Asians being smart gives you carte blanche to depict them as ignorant or stupid, because “the actual stereotype is the opposite.”

      Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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        You’ve been acting in bad faith throughout this entire discussion. I choose to believe there is no racist intent in the meme. Because I believe that genuinely, I can respond to you with as much frivolity as I want. You can choose to believe anything you want. If you look at the meme through the lense of it being racist, it’s racist. If you don’t, it’s not, its a dunk on imperialism. You see a blue and black dress I see a white and gold one.

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          Lol. You’re the one trying to equate my misspelling with the intentional, stereotypical misspelling. You tried to twist my words to pretend that I “agree with you on the other stuff,” pointing to one instance of Chinese scammers and acting like by acknowledging that scammers of every race exist, that it justifies stereotyping Chinese people as scammers. You’ve baselessly accused me of “sounding like a mouthpiece for Trump.” You tried to pretend that the meme was making fun of China, rather than a stereotype of a Chinese person, and you tried to pretend that the joke was just “China’ historically tumultuous past with Taiwan” which is obviously nonsense.

          All of that is bad faith. You know it’s not true and that none of it holds up, it’s just meant to give you a bit of rhetorical room to play coy.

          By contrast, what have I said or done in this whole conversation that’s bad faith?