I was a PM at a major now-hyperscaler and one of the engineers on my team was pretty vocal about PM not contributing.

He ended up leaving for a team that didn’t have one. A few years later I happened to be in his new building, he saw me, and came up with this huge grin on his face, “oh wow are you joining our team?”

You always hate the chick writing the specs until you don’t have one any more. 😂