Well, its not just the money, its the fact that it is a Google product. Many of us, outside the USA don’t trust anything that Google produces, including Android itself (which is why degoogled phones are a thing) nor do we want to fuel the techno fascists running the company.
I’m outside the US. I brought several broken Pixels Pros & fixed them with Chinese parts. I run GrapheneOS on all of them. None of my money went to Google. I even sold one with GrapheneOS still installed & the buyer understood what that meant.
You don’t need to trust ungoogled phones, you just need to trust the forensic analysis, cyber security reports & new patches that point towards a cryptographically safe environment.
I hate Google as much as any of you Lemmies but there are ways. Plenty.
Ah y antes de que digan mamadas de privilegio y así… gano en axolopezones y estoy a la mitad entre bajos ingresos y pobreza 🫠
If it was actively doing something it shouldnt, they’d notice.
You could argue there could be something hidden in the firmware for use by the state when they REALLY REALLY REALLY want to get into something, and are willing to blow a good backdoor on it. But that’s also something you deal with on any modern PC, unless you wanna party like its 2011 and run an old FX-Series AMD chip, or a librebooted machine with ME Cleaner. (See Intel ME/AMD PSP)
The pixel is still a product of Google that Google benefits from when you purchase it. Some if us want to avoid contributing to their power as much as we can. Not purchasing a Pixel one of those choices.
Android needs to be replaced as well. I still hold hope for mobile Linux.
I usually buy a refurbished Pixel a generation or so behind the current. At least it doesn’t directly support Google. Not perfect, but it’s what I can afford.
I understand that logic. But it’s the very fact of even owning something that they produced is enough for me to reject it. if for nothing more than I don’t want people seeing that i use a pixel phone because then, I benefit Google by acting as free advertising for their devices. Is my view extreme? Maybe, but i really hate the tech oligarchs. They have ruined so much in this world.
Oh no I’m not saying I like the situation, I’m just saying its currently the only good option if you want something that works this instant.
I love the idea of desktop Linux in my pocket, I daily drove an OG Pine Phone for a year. After a year for daily driving a Cosmo communicator.
The support just isn’t there and I really really wish it was. I honestly think the federal government needs to step in and fund FLOSS development, but lmao good luck, they don’t even pay for cancer treatments.
Well, its not just the money, its the fact that it is a Google product. Many of us, outside the USA don’t trust anything that Google produces, including Android itself (which is why degoogled phones are a thing) nor do we want to fuel the techno fascists running the company.
I’m outside the US. I brought several broken Pixels Pros & fixed them with Chinese parts. I run GrapheneOS on all of them. None of my money went to Google. I even sold one with GrapheneOS still installed & the buyer understood what that meant.
You don’t need to trust ungoogled phones, you just need to trust the forensic analysis, cyber security reports & new patches that point towards a cryptographically safe environment.
I hate Google as much as any of you Lemmies but there are ways. Plenty.
Ah y antes de que digan mamadas de privilegio y así… gano en axolopezones y estoy a la mitad entre bajos ingresos y pobreza 🫠
You obviously don’t :)
Grapheme runs tests on googles firmware regularly.
If it was actively doing something it shouldnt, they’d notice.
You could argue there could be something hidden in the firmware for use by the state when they REALLY REALLY REALLY want to get into something, and are willing to blow a good backdoor on it. But that’s also something you deal with on any modern PC, unless you wanna party like its 2011 and run an old FX-Series AMD chip, or a librebooted machine with ME Cleaner. (See Intel ME/AMD PSP)
The pixel is still a product of Google that Google benefits from when you purchase it. Some if us want to avoid contributing to their power as much as we can. Not purchasing a Pixel one of those choices.
Android needs to be replaced as well. I still hold hope for mobile Linux.
Google doesn’t own the PC market.
I usually buy a refurbished Pixel a generation or so behind the current. At least it doesn’t directly support Google. Not perfect, but it’s what I can afford.
I understand that logic. But it’s the very fact of even owning something that they produced is enough for me to reject it. if for nothing more than I don’t want people seeing that i use a pixel phone because then, I benefit Google by acting as free advertising for their devices. Is my view extreme? Maybe, but i really hate the tech oligarchs. They have ruined so much in this world.
You mean Chromebooks vomit emoji
Oh no I’m not saying I like the situation, I’m just saying its currently the only good option if you want something that works this instant.
I love the idea of desktop Linux in my pocket, I daily drove an OG Pine Phone for a year. After a year for daily driving a Cosmo communicator.
The support just isn’t there and I really really wish it was. I honestly think the federal government needs to step in and fund FLOSS development, but lmao good luck, they don’t even pay for cancer treatments.