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  • theparadox@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    How in the actual fuck does one justify the violent and literal crushing of the Chinese people’s right to protest against their government as a good thing?!

    I’d love to see that propaganda link for myself, just to see how on Earth anybody could frame the killing of innocent people as a good thing.

    I’m not defending the Chinese government’s actions, but I can explain a potential framing of those actions and the mentality of defending it.

    There is a concept called “Siege Socialism” that I don’t think many people really consider. I’ve written a number of comments explaining it. It’d been on my mind for a while but I was ignorant of the term until recently.

    Capitalists hold so much power all over the world and they do NOT want anyone to consider anything else. It’s extremely difficult for a socialist/communist state to exist without it being pushed to become an authoritarian state. Consider the absolute onslaught of pressure from those capitalist powers. Propaganda, sanctions, trade wars, blockades, posturing, funding opposition parties, funding rebel groups, sabotage, proxy wars, etc. Imagine all of your neighbors working vehemently to ensure you look bad and fail at everything you do. Could you imagine a well-intentioned leader in such a situation pushed to paranoia and state violence? Is it even paranoia if its real?

    The Chinese side is simple. Those protestors were funded and encouraged by the US and other foreign powers in an effort to destabilize and create unrest.

    I’m not saying China had or currently has only innocent, well-intentioned leaders and I do not give any of them a pass for their uses of state violence. However, the US and western capitalist powers are just as capable of propaganda as the Chinese or Soviets and they often jump at any chance to make life more difficult for their enemies. I doubt it was anywhere near as simple as either side might try to paint it.