Do you somehow think that Boomers have no place in the anarchist movement? Because ageism is a hierarchy that itself needs to be smashed. I don’t give a fuck what your age is; if you’re an anarchist, you’re an anarchist, whenever you were born, whatever conditions you were born into. E.g., David Graeber was a Boomer.
And also, I’m a Zillenial. You don’t necessarily need to use my generation’s slang for me to understand something. Also…not every young person writes like you want us to write! If anything, I have been “uncool”, i.e. uninterested in trends and fitting in with my cohort, for my entire life. I’ve been writing bricks of text like this one basically since I learned to write. I get it if you personally aren’t receptive to ideas in this format, no hard feelings, but that doesn’t it mean it has no utility to anarchist agitprop.
Do you somehow think that Boomers have no place in the anarchist movement?
I am extremely certain our gerontocracies are perpetuate by their oppression, yes. Do you think boomers are aligning themselves with our struggles?
David Graeber was a Boomer.
And he doesn’t 1) identify with his age group 2) or their policies.
If anything, I have been “uncool”, i.e. uninterested in trends and fitting in with my cohort, for my entire life.
Then you miscomprehended the point of demographics. You have to solidify yourself with the zeitgeist, or stay “uncool” forever. Agitprop is supposed to agitate the capable, the normies, the generation leading insurgency.
I am extremely certain our gerontocracies are perpetuate by their oppression, yes.
The gerontocracy is a reflection of the fact that the bourgeoisie acts in the interest of its own preservation. In my view, Boomers as a demographic are not responsible for this because most Boomers are proletarians like you and I, and therefore are unable to influence the system, even if they individually supported gerontocracy.
Also… gerontocracy really is a critique of the silent generation, not Boomers, since the oldest politicians are older than Boomers.
And he doesn’t 1) identify with his age group 2) or their policies.
Generational politics is liberal horseshit. It’s distorting your judgement, as all liberal politics are designed to do. Generational analysis is only ever useful as a heuristic, and even then it is closer to a horoscope than a description of reality.
Agitprop is supposed to agitate the capable, the normies, the generation leading insurgency.
I hate to break it to you, but…young people are just as capable of expressing fascist beliefs as Boomers. E.g., how many normie Zoomers went to the polls after zero opposition to ICE and encroaching fascism, just to vote Democrat, one of the parties that did the Gaza genocide, after it hurt their individual wallets! If you look at the problem generationally, no generation is ripe for anarchism except perhaps the literal kids born during and after the pandemic, because they have not yet been corrupted by capitalism. We have to meet people where they’re at. And in particular, it means that agitprop needs to target subsets of every generation, e.g. working class individuals who are suspicious of the lies told to them by liberals, who need a “nudge” in the right direction.
And also… something doesn’t sit right about focusing on “the capable”. Because I also want to agitate the implied “incapable”, i.e. those with low self-efficacy. Frankly, I work with a lot of students with low self-efficacy, and I want to see them join our movements as well, as a corollary of my more general desire to increase their self-efficacy. I.e., I am not willing to give up on people who ”aren’t capable". Anarchism is for everyone!
Are you leading an insurgency?
Actually no, because I’m not a vanguardist, I’m an anarchist. I want the masses to lead our own insurgency. I am not interested in leading anything, beyond temporarily “stepping up to the plate” if needed. I absolutely do support individual direct action as we need a diversity of tactics to achieve our goals, but ideologically I am much closer to mass-movement anarchism.
The gerontocracy is a reflection of the fact that the bourgeoisie acts in the interest of its own preservation.
And what are the silent&boomers doing to be selfless and martyr?
In my view, Boomers as a demographic are not responsible for this because most Boomers are proletarians like you and I, and therefore are unable to influence the system, even if they individually supported gerontocracy.
Contrary to your demoview, boomers are the major recipient of welfare, and vote to keep the geron in place. So no, they’rent proles, or anarchists. Logically, why would welfare queens work to liberate their children & grandchildren?
kids born during and after the pandemic,
Then let’s zeitgeist these memes for them.
We have to meet people where they’re at.
§1)
2) Where do you think anarchists are?
agitprop needs to target subsets of every generation
CC already made the meme for millennials+. I made it for the tiktok generation.
working class individuals who are suspicious of the lies told to them by liberals, who need a “nudge” in the right direction.
§1. Boomers≢proles. They perpetuate liberal lies, aware who they betray. You never exhibited once a reformed boomer prole “nudged in the right direction.” David Graeber is a prole that 1) disassociates from his peers 2) and their praxis. Gen α are incapable of working, and should be agitated to rebel.
I want the masses to lead our own insurgency.
You won’t find it in treasonous boomers+dying silent. Millennials maybe. But I target the generation that needs to insurgent completely.
Logically, why would welfare queens work to liberate their children & grandchildren?
Wtf anarchists are not against people receiving fucking welfare. “Welfare queen” is a conservative dog whistle!
§1. Boomers≢proles. They perpetuate liberal lies, aware who they betray.
Bizarro-world perspective, sorry. People from every generation perpetuate liberal lies because liberalism is the monoculture in the West. Instead of simply dismissing Boomers from proletarian struggle, we should at least be open to the possibility of change.
You never exhibited once a reformed boomer prole “nudged in the right direction.” David Graeber is a prole that 1) disassociates from his peers 2) and their praxis.
Of course Graeber was (not is, sadly, RIP) a reformed Boomer prole! In the West, we are all indoctrinated, from cradle to grave, into the liberal monoculture. He, and the thousands of other forgotten anarchists he worked with, were examples of reformed Boomer proles. And there are certainly some of them left in the anarchist movement.
Gen α are incapable of working
… because they’re literally children right now…
and should be agitated to rebel.
As should every generation.
And what are the silent&boomers doing to be selfless and martyr?
Some Boomers and a smaller number of Silent Generation people are doing what they can. But I really don’t expect much of Silent Generation because, yeah, they’re super old and not in fighting condition. That doesn’t mean there aren’t Silent Generation activists who spent a lifetime fighting on our behalf, who have now rightly retired to live out the rest of their lives in peace.
GL w/Bluewave MAGA!
Yes, as I have taken hundreds of downvotes to argue against, Blue MAGA is an impediment to the anarchist movement, and to social struggle more broadly. Your solution of…I guess ignoring people who don’t fit your mold for what the proletariat should look like?..does not avoid the Blue MAGA problem. Young people are just as susceptible to liberalism as every other generation.
Do you somehow think that Boomers have no place in the anarchist movement? Because ageism is a hierarchy that itself needs to be smashed. I don’t give a fuck what your age is; if you’re an anarchist, you’re an anarchist, whenever you were born, whatever conditions you were born into. E.g., David Graeber was a Boomer.
And also, I’m a Zillenial. You don’t necessarily need to use my generation’s slang for me to understand something. Also…not every young person writes like you want us to write! If anything, I have been “uncool”, i.e. uninterested in trends and fitting in with my cohort, for my entire life. I’ve been writing bricks of text like this one basically since I learned to write. I get it if you personally aren’t receptive to ideas in this format, no hard feelings, but that doesn’t it mean it has no utility to anarchist agitprop.
I am extremely certain our gerontocracies are perpetuate by their oppression, yes. Do you think boomers are aligning themselves with our struggles?
And he doesn’t 1) identify with his age group 2) or their policies.
Then you miscomprehended the point of demographics. You have to solidify yourself with the zeitgeist, or stay “uncool” forever. Agitprop is supposed to agitate the capable, the normies, the generation leading insurgency.
Are you leading an insurgency?
The gerontocracy is a reflection of the fact that the bourgeoisie acts in the interest of its own preservation. In my view, Boomers as a demographic are not responsible for this because most Boomers are proletarians like you and I, and therefore are unable to influence the system, even if they individually supported gerontocracy.
Also… gerontocracy really is a critique of the silent generation, not Boomers, since the oldest
politicians are older than Boomers.
Generational politics is liberal horseshit. It’s distorting your judgement, as all liberal politics are designed to do. Generational analysis is only ever useful as a heuristic, and even then it is closer to a horoscope than a description of reality.
I hate to break it to you, but…young people are just as capable of expressing fascist beliefs as Boomers. E.g., how many normie
Zoomers went to the polls after zero opposition to ICE and encroaching fascism, just to vote Democrat, one of the parties that did the Gaza genocide, after it hurt their individual wallets! If you look at the problem generationally, no generation is ripe for anarchism except perhaps the literal kids born during and after the pandemic, because they have not yet been corrupted by capitalism. We have to meet people where they’re at. And in particular, it means that agitprop needs to target subsets of every generation, e.g. working class individuals who are suspicious of the lies told to them by liberals, who need a “nudge” in the right direction.
And also… something doesn’t sit right about focusing on “the capable”. Because I also want to agitate the implied “incapable”, i.e. those with low self-efficacy. Frankly, I work with a lot of students with low self-efficacy, and I want to see them join our movements as well, as a corollary of my more general desire to increase their self-efficacy. I.e., I am not willing to give up on people who ”aren’t capable". Anarchism is for everyone!
Actually no, because I’m not a vanguardist, I’m an anarchist. I want the masses to lead our own insurgency. I am not interested in leading anything, beyond temporarily “stepping up to the plate” if needed. I absolutely do support individual direct action as we need a diversity of tactics to achieve our goals, but ideologically I am much closer to mass-movement anarchism.
And what are the silent&boomers doing to be selfless and martyr?
Contrary to your demoview, boomers are the major recipient of welfare, and vote to keep the geron in place. So no, they’rent proles, or anarchists. Logically, why would welfare queens work to liberate their children & grandchildren?
Then let’s zeitgeist these memes for them.
§1)
2) Where do you think anarchists are?
CC already made the meme for millennials+. I made it for the tiktok generation.
§1. Boomers≢proles. They perpetuate liberal lies, aware who they betray. You never exhibited once a reformed boomer prole “nudged in the right direction.” David Graeber is a prole that 1) disassociates from his peers 2) and their praxis. Gen α are incapable of working, and should be agitated to rebel.
You won’t find it in treasonous boomers+dying silent. Millennials maybe. But I target the generation that needs to insurgent completely.
GL w/Bluewave MAGA!
Wtf anarchists are not against people receiving fucking welfare. “Welfare queen” is a conservative dog whistle!
Bizarro-world perspective, sorry. People from every generation perpetuate liberal lies because liberalism is the monoculture in the West. Instead of simply dismissing Boomers from proletarian struggle, we should at least be open to the possibility of change.
Of course Graeber was (not is, sadly, RIP) a reformed Boomer prole! In the West, we are all indoctrinated, from cradle to grave, into the liberal monoculture. He, and the thousands of other forgotten anarchists he worked with, were examples of reformed Boomer proles. And there are certainly some of them left in the anarchist movement.
… because they’re literally children right now…
As should every generation.
Some Boomers and a smaller number of Silent Generation people are doing what they can. But I really don’t expect much of Silent Generation because, yeah, they’re super old and not in fighting condition. That doesn’t mean there aren’t Silent Generation activists who spent a lifetime fighting on our behalf, who have now rightly retired to live out the rest of their lives in peace.
Yes, as I have taken hundreds of downvotes to argue against, Blue MAGA is an impediment to the anarchist movement, and to social struggle more broadly. Your solution of…I guess ignoring people who don’t fit your mold for what the proletariat should look like?..does not avoid the Blue MAGA problem. Young people are just as susceptible to liberalism as every other generation.
Anarchists are for mutual aid, not pension oppression that boomers perpetuate.
Take a moment to marinate why that is🙃.
So, are you including yourself as a liberal, that lies, and betrays your class‽
I, and Graeber don’t share your indoctrination!
you:
disinformation strike 1!
citations pls
So are you a mass-movement anarchist, or a vanguard?
GL with class treachery generations!
oh no. We confront Blue MAGA with guillotines. Direct action.
Glad we are on the same team, opposing liberalprop, and agitating the abled. You sure you’re not a vanguard?