Yes this is a Telegram client and yes it will break the Lemmy’s downvote world record but I still find this one very nice and “actively” maintained. There are not many good Telegram FOSS forks without Google integrations and similar stuff out there.

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    Looks interesting. I don’t fully understand how unified push works, though. I’m I right in reading that the author have set up an UP server themselves?

    Yes this is a Telegram client and yes it will break the Lemmy’s downvote world record

    Because most people live in a echo chamber. Just ignore them.

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    do any of these forks support E2EE? I don’t mean the OG “private chat” thingy that Telegram supports.

    I mean like an add-on, the way pidgin had an OTR plugin that enabled private comms over Google’s unencrypted XMPP servers.

    as a consequence, that would also encrypt everything in the cloud and prevent your chat history being ingested for LLM training and whatnot.

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          because Telegram’s UI/UX is second to none; possibly iMessage or whatever it’s called is close, albeit with way limited functionality. Signal and friends look like a PoC from 2015 in comparison. also the apps, on mobile and on desktop, have a low memory footprint with no bloated electron crap, the cross-device sync is phenomenal and there’s the virtually unlimited cloud storage. if an addon could piggyback off of that, that would be spectacular.

          however, OP’s insight as to this being against ToS is obviously a deal breaker. seeing as how they’re adamant about leaving all your shit unencrypted in the cloud I’m looking for other havens, begrudgingly; I’ve been a user from the early days.

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      E2EE is prohibited by Telegram’s TOS (you can’t make any feature that requires users to use your client to access it).

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        Whoa, they not only won’t implement it, but will work on not letting anyone else do it. They’re more shady than I thought.

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          They’re not shady. They just don’t want to lose the market share and I think if they made Telegram really secure, there’d be even more illegal stuff on it and the government wouldn’t like it.

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              How is it “shady” to not want to lose market share and keep illegal stuff off of it?

              You could argue it’s “shitty” (perhaps, but it is their servers after all) but I don’t find it shady.

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                How is it “shady” to not want to lose market share and keep illegal stuff off of it?

                Market share shouldn’t be a concern with encrypted chat. If it is then I don’t trust it.

                If you’re making an encrypted chat, you’re going to have illegal things on it. If only the chat owners have the keys then that shouldn’t be the server owners concern.

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      1. Materialgram is for desktop and this one is for Android.
      2. Mercurygram is based on the Telegram FOSS project that removes proprietary bits from the client, making it more privacy-respecting.
      3. Mercurygram adds some new features that stock Telegram doesn’t have (though idk anything about them because I’m not a power user).