• ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    That’s what I keep saying: Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom.

    And the disease is that a majority of voting Americans are either morally bankrupt and gullible enough to overlook all that Trump did and said and elect him, or actively fascist.

    And that’s why, when people tell me I need to “make space” for those people and give them an exit ramp, so that when Trump finally turns on them too, and they realize what they done did, the nation can heal and come back together, I say: fuck this shit.

    I don’t want to make space for immoral morons and fascists. These people deserve what they’re about to get, and what they’ve inflicted on the rest of us who didn’t sell out, and they’ll never come back from the moral quagmire that made them think it’s a-okay to elect a fascist POTUS.

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        14 hours ago

        It means let the fuckers know they can retreat from their extreme or misguided political stance and come back to a more reasonable point of view without consequences. It’s a variation of Sun Tzu’s "Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across”: if you don’t, they’ll fight you to the death because they have no other option.

        My problem is, however reasonably the idea, that’s a bit too rich for me to apply to imbeciles who turn their country into a fascist hellhole.

    • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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      Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom.

      The problem is America , systemically not socially. The idiot Trump voters are likewise symptoms.

      The sad part is many Americans simply think if you just get rid of Trump and his supporters that it would fix the problems with the country when in reality it perpetuates them by ignoring the underlying issues.

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        you can’t expect perfect results…

        I’d take getting rid of Trump and his supporters. It WOULD fix the problems with the country right now

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          You can certainly aim for your best…

          I’d take actually standing for something and not succeeding over standing for nothing and succeeding. It would fix the problems with the country permanently.

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      You were correct in the first half then you fell right off. Name a president that didn’t suck. You can’t, you won’t. This has nothing to do with Republican or Democratic being worst. BOTH are traitors to the American people.

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        I do not understand how “vote for the better option” could possibly not be the correct move. If you want to change the candidates we have in the general election, no strategy for voting within the general election will change that; you would need to vote in the primaries to get the legitimately good candidates into the general. This is once again voting for the best option. If you have another theory I would love to hear how you expect it to work.