Yeah, I’d believe it. Outside of anti-AI circlejerks people like AI, especially ones like ChatGPT, and especially if it is available right at their fingertips. It’s quickly becoming a part of everyday life and processes.
The anti-AI people need to start accepting that today and every day after it is going be the day that AI plays the smallest part in humanity’s future. The genie is out of the bottle and it’s never going back in. The sooner they can accept that and let go of the hate and see it for what it is - a useful tool to help you - the better and less angry their lives will be.
How useful is it really? I constantly hear about it being wrong and I’m not so stupid that I can’t handle a search through Wikipedia on my own.
Why should accept this thing that is of such little benefit to my life? Why should I accept this thing that is constantly wrong? Why should I accept this thing that just allows uncreative and insecure people to fill the internet full of garbage?
If you need AI as it is to help you do things then I pity you greatly.
Ok but we know that it’s very often wrong and tries too hard to make you feel good instead of actually giving correct answers. It makes up reasons for made-up sayings, often struggles with math, and has a whole host of other issues while acting fully confident in its infallibility. We have several studies that seem to show that its use is having a negative affect on ohr critical thinking skills as well. After all that it doesn’t even provide a service that’s worth anything even if it didn’t come with all those downsides. Using a search engine just isn’t that difficult and AI “art” is a goddamn cancer.
It’s terrible for us and we don’t even need it! No, fuck “AI”. We have a big enough problem with people trying to find the easy way out to such a degree that they refuse to learn how anything works and slapping a big “do it for me” button on everything is just insane. I’m not saying that everything needs to difficult but we are so averse to even the slightest challenge that it leaves us with nothing but a complete lack of basic skills and an assload of insecurity.
AI is a tool. It’s not a person, it’s not a be-all-end-all of anything. Just like a person can use excel and come up with the wrong numbers, people can use AI and come up with the wrong answer.
Just like with every tool, there are people who can’t use them properly, there are people who are good enough to get modest results, and there are people who are experts at their craft who can do amazing things with them. AI is no different.
If you want a calculator, use a calculator - not AI. Use the right tool for the job and you’ll get the best result.
Studies can be made to say anything, and I know the ones you are talking about - they’re bogus.
Except that anyone who can use it properly can also just do the job without it, and the amount of damage it is doing because it’s freely available to everyone is insane.
You’re completely ignoring all my arguments. This sorta makes sense since your original reply was very “just ignore the bad stuff and it’s good!” but you’re going to have to address those things. I meanc, you did say “they’re bogus” and then not elaborate at all, but I’m assuming that if you have the energy to continuing writing comments then you would also have the energy to do the far more efficient thing and show me why those studies are bogus, right?
No I’m not, I addressed them. LLMs not being able to do maths/spelling is a known shortcoming. Anyone using it to do that is literally using it wrong. The studies you talk about were ridiculous, I know the ones you’re talking about. Of course people that don’t learn something won’t know how to do it, for example - but the fact that they can do it with AI is a positive. Obviously getting AI to write an essay means that the person will feel less “proud” of their work, as one of the studies said - but that’s not a “bad” thing. Just like how people don’t need to learn how to hunt and gather anymore doesn’t mean that it’s a bad thing - the world as it is, and as it always will be from here on out, means we don’t need to know that unless we want to do it.
Again - AI is a tool, and idiots being able to use it to great effect doesn’t mean that the tool is bad. If anything that’s a showing of how good the tool is.
Those studies aren’t about them feeling less proud, they’re about the degradation of critical thinking skills.
I have repeatedly said that isn’t worth anything largely because it doesn’t do anything I can’t do with relative ease. Why do you think it’s so great? What do you honestly use it for?
As one example I built an MCP server that lets LLMs access a reporting database, and made a Copilot Agent and integrated it into Teams, so now the entire business can ask a chat bot questions, using natural language in teams, about business data. It can run reports for them on demand, pulling in new columns/tables. It can identify when there might be something wrong as it also reads from our logs.
These people don’t know databases. They don’t know how to read debug/error logs.
I also use GitHub copilot.
But sure, it can’t be of any help to anyone ever lol
I’m not sure what your point is. There are many people that like AI but don’t like Copilot. So a statistic of people liking AI is not equivalent to a statistic of people liking Copilot. That’s like saying people love my baking because people like baking in general, even though I didn’t ask anyone about my baking in particular.
So what’s your point? That not everyone likes copilot? No shit. My point was that there isn’t a “vast difference” between using/liking copilot and “AI” as you said there is.
Yeah, I’d believe it. Outside of anti-AI circlejerks people like AI, especially ones like ChatGPT, and especially if it is available right at their fingertips. It’s quickly becoming a part of everyday life and processes.
The anti-AI people need to start accepting that today and every day after it is going be the day that AI plays the smallest part in humanity’s future. The genie is out of the bottle and it’s never going back in. The sooner they can accept that and let go of the hate and see it for what it is - a useful tool to help you - the better and less angry their lives will be.
How useful is it really? I constantly hear about it being wrong and I’m not so stupid that I can’t handle a search through Wikipedia on my own.
Why should accept this thing that is of such little benefit to my life? Why should I accept this thing that is constantly wrong? Why should I accept this thing that just allows uncreative and insecure people to fill the internet full of garbage?
If you need AI as it is to help you do things then I pity you greatly.
You’re constantly hearing negative stuff, exaggerations, and lies most likely - especially if you are hearing it on places like this.
Ok but we know that it’s very often wrong and tries too hard to make you feel good instead of actually giving correct answers. It makes up reasons for made-up sayings, often struggles with math, and has a whole host of other issues while acting fully confident in its infallibility. We have several studies that seem to show that its use is having a negative affect on ohr critical thinking skills as well. After all that it doesn’t even provide a service that’s worth anything even if it didn’t come with all those downsides. Using a search engine just isn’t that difficult and AI “art” is a goddamn cancer.
It’s terrible for us and we don’t even need it! No, fuck “AI”. We have a big enough problem with people trying to find the easy way out to such a degree that they refuse to learn how anything works and slapping a big “do it for me” button on everything is just insane. I’m not saying that everything needs to difficult but we are so averse to even the slightest challenge that it leaves us with nothing but a complete lack of basic skills and an assload of insecurity.
AI is a tool. It’s not a person, it’s not a be-all-end-all of anything. Just like a person can use excel and come up with the wrong numbers, people can use AI and come up with the wrong answer.
Just like with every tool, there are people who can’t use them properly, there are people who are good enough to get modest results, and there are people who are experts at their craft who can do amazing things with them. AI is no different.
If you want a calculator, use a calculator - not AI. Use the right tool for the job and you’ll get the best result.
Studies can be made to say anything, and I know the ones you are talking about - they’re bogus.
Except that anyone who can use it properly can also just do the job without it, and the amount of damage it is doing because it’s freely available to everyone is insane.
You’re completely ignoring all my arguments. This sorta makes sense since your original reply was very “just ignore the bad stuff and it’s good!” but you’re going to have to address those things. I meanc, you did say “they’re bogus” and then not elaborate at all, but I’m assuming that if you have the energy to continuing writing comments then you would also have the energy to do the far more efficient thing and show me why those studies are bogus, right?
No I’m not, I addressed them. LLMs not being able to do maths/spelling is a known shortcoming. Anyone using it to do that is literally using it wrong. The studies you talk about were ridiculous, I know the ones you’re talking about. Of course people that don’t learn something won’t know how to do it, for example - but the fact that they can do it with AI is a positive. Obviously getting AI to write an essay means that the person will feel less “proud” of their work, as one of the studies said - but that’s not a “bad” thing. Just like how people don’t need to learn how to hunt and gather anymore doesn’t mean that it’s a bad thing - the world as it is, and as it always will be from here on out, means we don’t need to know that unless we want to do it.
Again - AI is a tool, and idiots being able to use it to great effect doesn’t mean that the tool is bad. If anything that’s a showing of how good the tool is.
Those studies aren’t about them feeling less proud, they’re about the degradation of critical thinking skills.
I have repeatedly said that isn’t worth anything largely because it doesn’t do anything I can’t do with relative ease. Why do you think it’s so great? What do you honestly use it for?
As one example I built an MCP server that lets LLMs access a reporting database, and made a Copilot Agent and integrated it into Teams, so now the entire business can ask a chat bot questions, using natural language in teams, about business data. It can run reports for them on demand, pulling in new columns/tables. It can identify when there might be something wrong as it also reads from our logs.
These people don’t know databases. They don’t know how to read debug/error logs.
I also use GitHub copilot.
But sure, it can’t be of any help to anyone ever lol
There is a vast difference between people using/liking AI and people using/liking Copilot.
Not really. Copilot is AI, and people will be made aware that it’s available everywhere in Windows.
I’m not sure what your point is. There are many people that like AI but don’t like Copilot. So a statistic of people liking AI is not equivalent to a statistic of people liking Copilot. That’s like saying people love my baking because people like baking in general, even though I didn’t ask anyone about my baking in particular.
Oh are there? Where’s your source?
Any primary school math textbook will do as a source and tell you not all rectangles are squares, even if a square is a rectangle.
So what’s your point? That not everyone likes copilot? No shit. My point was that there isn’t a “vast difference” between using/liking copilot and “AI” as you said there is.